Yes it is nauseating. And it's the norm. Whenever some company finds a way to make a boat-load of money by exploiting a weakness of human nature, the government will demand a portion of the proceeds. It's business as usual, in the USA at least. Even more nauseating is what they could do with that $2.5B...
If the Mythos era isn't just hype marketing, "sec-scurity" might not be a valid strategy anymore. If you're taking a beat because you're small and irrelevant, you could still be massively fucked over a breach.
Mom & Pop code shops might be high risk if nation-state level vulnerability-exploitation becomes economically viable to any disgruntled prick.
Listen, I would actually be willing to support something like this, but Jesus Christ when will we put somebody in congress with a CS background who can literally just chime in and say "use Zero Knowledge Proofs for this, people might actually buy that you're not just building a surveillance state."
> when will we put somebody in congress with a CS background who can literally just chime in and say "use Zero Knowledge Proofs for this, people might actually buy that you're not just building a surveillance state."
Well that would be counter-productive to actually building a surveillance state.
1) It's one thing to use secure auth to access government services, banks etc. that need to know beyond reasonable doubt who you are to function at all. It's something else entirely to require every person in the EU (not just citizens) to ask the government for permission to speak online.
there is a significant population in management, court and law enforcement that does support state-mandated registration using full profile ID for using public infrastructure. It was on the railroad system in the USA, and was part of the profound shift to individual cars.
this was my initial reaction. It feels like we would rather merge the Mythos/Glasswing fixes before the model becomes widespread. The rumours/vibe are that there are security issues at are going to need responsibly patching before the 0-day exploits arrive. If this means implementing a broader AI contribution policy now, it seems practical.
I see music as "the space of all possible 5-second clips at stereo 48kHz 24bit depth". If you think about it, that space contains the intro to Stairway to Heaven and Oops I Did It Again, and the end of either song. It contains every 5-second segment of O Fortuna, plus a previously unimagined O Fortuna Remix with MF Doom rapping the pledge of alliegance backwards.
My point is, AI is getting good at searching music space for novel patterns, and that's entirely the point of music, not making a career out of being an alcoholic minstrel with a tour bus.
The audience will out the good patterns, and it's up to the musicians or AI companies to serve better patterns.
That's very reductive. Music, like writing or painting, is a medium, not a thing with intrinsic purpose. It can be a means of communication, sharing human experience, conveying emotion, evoking feelings, expressing a story, ...
I'm not saying AI music is inherently good. I'm saying good music is good music.
My take is literalist, not reductive: Music (and any art product) is configuration. The media involved are the physical laws of nature that present the configuration.
> It can be a means of communication, sharing human experience, ...
1. You're construing the journey with the result. The act of creating is not typically the result product itself.
2. Any perceived relationship to the artist via product is virtual and parasocial (respectfully stated). You have no relationship with Bach or Shakespeare or Michelangelo--you have an appreciation for their accumulated works. You may have a fascination for their stories and life through literary works. You have no relationship with your favorite artist, you have their works in your media library.
To many, the relationship between what was written in the sheet and how it was played by a live performer, day I say virtuoso, is the imporant thing. The human component is the important component.
This is entirely separate from pop, which is the junk food of music - cheap, filling, bad for your health.
I would argue that the human element in music is not an important contributor towards the enjoyment of music for exactly 100% of people.
Humans just biologically enjoy rhythmic sounds. We don't care who makes it, we don't care how it is performed live. Those things are just hijacking emotional memory in heightened moments, but that is completely separate from the general natural enjoyment of music.
AI music simply drives the same point home that listening to random music does when you are without a care for lyrics or artists (often, and everyone).
Your point is asinine. You love a hell of a lot of music besides what you attach to live performance. Everyone does. You do not care about the human component.
Unless you want to lie and claim you're some musical purist, this argument is shallow thinking and nothing more.
I would counter-argue that you're accusing the other party of exactly the shallow thinking you're guilty of - even worse, you cannot concieve of a thing, so you confidently state thing does not exist and the other party is at best a liar. One only has to have a cursory knowledge of performances on, say, pianos, to know that who and how plays an established piece was always a big deal.
You are missing the point entirely. As I already said: live performances are a completely separate type of enjoyment than music enjoyment. It is dishonest to ignore all of the music you enjoy that has nothing to do with performance, and to cherry pick the less than 1% of music you have likes that also overlaps with what you have seen performed live. Please, this only takes a couple seconds of actual critical thought.
> "the space of all possible 5-second clips at stereo 48kHz 24bit depth".
That space is mostly noise.
Try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio for an example of the kind of noise that this space contains.
(If you stick with it and manage live long enough, you'll eventually hear a few bars from Stairway to Heaven. If I also manage to live long enough, then perhaps we'll be able to chat about it in a few million years.)
> I see music as "the space of all possible 5-second clips at stereo 48kHz 24bit depth".
5.6MB? That's an astounding number of combinations. 1 followed by 1733933 zeroes.
> If you think about it, that space contains the intro to Stairway to Heaven and Oops I Did It Again, and the end of either song. It contains every 5-second segment of O Fortuna, plus a previously unimagined O Fortuna Remix with MF Doom rapping the pledge of alliegance backwards. My point is, AI is getting good at searching music space for novel patterns, and that's entirely the point of music, not making a career out of being an alcoholic minstrel with a tour bus.
AI is not searching that space for novel patterns for the most part, it is taking what it has heard before and coming up with things based on that. Which isn't a dig at AI, that's pretty much how humans do things too. I don't think today's AIs would be able to come up with something like Stairway to Heaven if Led Zeppelin and the music they inspired had never existed though.
Agree. Maybe novel is the wrong term given my framing. "Listenable?" The combinatorial space of music is hyperastronomical, effectively infinite. And most of it is probably noise.
AI isn't "searching" in the standard indexing sense. But if say, Suno, is doing stable diffusion on fourier transform heat maps, and there's a finite space of configurations... it is using a heuristic approach to pick an option from a well-defined (gargantuan) set of options.
Used Suno to reimagine a handful of my old demos late last year, and honestly the results floored me. I could never release those tracks though, purely out of shame. But it seems pretty practical to study the AI remixes to understand what I like about them, and use these as a practice tool for music production.
Maybe it's a language barrier problem, but "by AMD" makes me think its a project distributed by AMD. Is that actually the case? I'm not seeing any reason to believe it is.
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