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>I personally have 4 factors for my gmail account

Tack this on to the list of reasons why no normal person will use bitcoin in any quantity.


So why aren't the sellers before PE and buyers after PE aware of the fact that no value is being added by PE in the interim, and hence sell cheaply and overpay?

Why is it so obvious to you, but not these other people? How does this charade perpetuate? Maybe there is value in there somewhere?


People selling to PE can usually see the writing on the wall, so they're eager to leave with whatever cash they can still get. That makes for low prices.

Buyers always think that they have some insight about the business that can materialise some yet-unrealised potential. You've probably done it yourself a few times, "if only Company X did this and that, instead of what they're doing now -- they'd make loads!". Everyone knows PE don't know how to run businesses beyond the basics, so buyers will always see untapped potential. That makes for high prices.


Why aren't the sellers and buyers meeting directly?


Business owners happy to get a payday, banks happy to loan money to a successful business. PE firms happy to be a middleman.


>blind reliance on algorithms can be catastrophic.

And in other places, basic algorithms smash human judgement:

https://www.amazon.com/Clinical-Versus-Statistical-Predictio...


>Another 10 years from now, what will anti-EV people be saying

Pointing out facts is now "anti-EV"?

Many a car can be optimized for acceleration:

http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/22/12004422/fastest-accelerat...


Assuming that anyone who works for GS, or banking in general, are homogenous in morals and ethics and ability is equally delusional.


These guys are not 'anyone'. That's just deliberately ignoring the point.


Only in America is locking people up the solution to all life's problems.


No, but it is definitely a solid solution to criminal problems, which is exactly what this is. These are most certainly criminal acts. Why should I not expect criminal activity to be charged as such?

Most criminal activity is done for profit, and that's certainly the case here. For-profit crimes have two solutions. You either make them unprofitable by fining the offender(s) more than they are making from the illegal activity or you give them a free, extended stay at the Gray Bar Motel, courtesy of the US taxpayer. I am more than happy to help foot that bill if necessary.


I'm unclear on something - you've said that these are "clearly" criminal acts. What would the charge be?


There are a number of laws relating to "unauthorized access" of private, digital information. This would seem to fall squarely inside of those, at least in my opinion. Those seem like the low-hanging fruit.

Going out a bit further, you could make a case for fraud or even hacking. Fraud because they are clearly misrepresenting the product and what it does. Hacking because they slipped in an OS update for older TV's that allowed them to have this feature on models that they never intended to have it on.

Also, they admitted to selling this information to advertisers. That's redistributing information they were not legally allowed to have. There are laws regarding profiting from crimes. But even if you leave those out, there is the issue of them selling information they didn't legally own. That could also come with a copyright violation if a lawyer for a class action suit was able to successfully argue that the owners of the televisions owned that information that they stole without permission. That seems like a tough win, though.

So I think unauthorized access, fraud, and the sale of illegally obtained information would be fair charges to apply.


Some additional information, direct from the FTC:

"The complaint alleges that Vizio engaged in unfair trade practices that violated the FTC Act and were unconscionable under New Jersey law." https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2017/02/...

The FTC act is long-standing federal law and NJ apparently has its own strong laws for this kind of activity. The FTC itself states that there are clear violations of at least these laws, at bare minimum.


How about fraud? Why is tricking someone to give you a password and using it enough to go to jail, but recording everything someone watches without their permission and selling to 3rd parties not?


Ah, but Corporate officers are immune to prosecution, and simply pay a (small) fine (consider it an indulgence). The Corporate veil uber-alles!


The NFL nailed it with Sunday games (although more and more are added to the schedule). It allowed you to to follow the sport closely without memorizing a team schedule, and every fan had the day off from work to watch. I wish more sports followed that system. It was easy to get into.

I still enjoy watching the game, but sadly it's become a sport I watch but won't play (or have my kids play).


Lending is pretty lax, just like it's been in spots all over the planet for over a decade.


>Are there (tech) news-sites which do not have this 10-100MB bloat with three js framweorks and gifs, ads and whatnot?

The HackerNews comment section, with the added benefit of it being more informative.


>id honestly be curious to why this comment is being downvoted so much

Because it confuses revenues and earnings? It defends Snap chat for not having "negative billions" when, in fact, it is has negative billions.


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