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I actually started working on it for last year's NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month; http://nanowrimo.org) but life happened and it got shelved so I pulled it out again today and got it into somewhat usable shape.

Sorry about the FB login, I know I will get shit for that but I need it because I eventually want to add social features :)


I'm not one of the authors, but the code in question is all in one file: https://github.com/clips/pattern/blob/master/pattern/web/__i...

It would be fairly straightforward to add your own class.


Whoa, modules with dozen of classes and 2450 lines of code! They definitely don't rely on file-navigation.

Project is great, but I've got a feeling that many smallish components have been already implemented, but here they were rewritten from scratch.


Is it just me or are they rerlolling requests and lxml for no good reason?


I've been running a few Linodes for the past year with absolutely no complaints. A year isn't a huge sample period, but I am very happy with my experience so far. I can't compare to Slicehost or Rackspace, but compared to my previous VPS at Media Temple (grrr...) Linode is paradise.


Reddit is open-source (https://github.com/reddit/reddit) so yeah, I'll clone it for $4k.


I'm not sure that's true. My hypothesis is that we find it easier to meet and communicate with people similar to us, so marketing a product aimed at other developers is an obvious path. There is lots of money to be made by getting out of our stupid little bubble--last week I went for coffee with a guy that sells a modern UI for a legacy system in the construction industry. His code base is probably not the prettiest, and he has less than ten clients, but he is a multi-millionaire.


Here's why I think it's true in some abstract sense. Actual details may not be quite so clear cut - apologies to patio11 if I'm tweaking things a bit to make a point.

Let's take the bingo card thing and ignore Appointment Reminder: it makes good money, but seems to have some kind of upper bound in that he's never going to turn it into a multi-billion dollar business.

On the other hand, he's developed some serious competence in things like A/B testing, email marketing, and things like that, and is able to demonstrate their effects on companies' profits and thus command a percentage of those profits or at least get paid really well. So, by selling to companies that deal in the millions of dollars, it's almost mathematical that he's going to bring in more money than by fiddling around with niche products.

That's not to say he could have gotten to B without first going through A (sorry:-), as he gained those skills with the niche product.


Ahh, I think I may have originally caught you before an edit (or just misread). There is probably more money to be made teaching eg. email marketing for someone in patio11's position, but that doesn't extrapolate well. For young developers like myself, I think it would be foolish to target other developers when there are so many valuable business problems that software can solve. (IOW I was contesting the idea that there is generally more money to be made selling shovels, but I do not contest the idea that patio11 or perhaps bdunn might be able to make more money selling shovels at this point.)


If you look at the linked report it says that online segments are growing in all of air, rail, car rentals and hotels--"vacations" are just not growing as a segment online. I think what tstegart might be saying is that it's not obvious which aspects of "vacation" are left, when all of those pieces can be booked individually.

I agree with regard to whether or not this needs to be disrupted--I do some work for a local travel agency and the level of service they provide is remarkable (it would be very difficult for me to save money by booking the same trips myself online, without even accounting for the time it would take me).


Are you talking about information products or paywalls or something else entirely?


I believe he is talking about the web's equivalent of newspaper or magazine. Like whole magazine published as a website, where users would pay for each "issue" or monthly access. This model doesn't work, with maybe a few very rare exceptions.



I think a disclaimer might be appropriate here ;) Not that I mind at all; CloudFlare is awesome.


I wouldn't put it past gliese1337. I turned 24 yesterday, and I can honestly tell clients that I've been programming professionally for over a decade. (Obviously, my abilities/standards have changed since then, and so have my rates... hopefully that trend will continue!)


I picked up a few jobs online around that same age, 13-15. I don't think I really had enough drive to start picking up better jobs or taking on follow up work for the clients.

Was a better time in a way, not really needing money I was actually more happy just doing my own stuff and helping out with sites online I was interested in.


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