Och, hello fellow monotone user.

"If you hate react" feels like very bad argument in engineering.

Anyway, interesting approach for up to medium pages (not apps!). Totally not replacement for react.

Perhaps a bad argument, but for some people a very compelling one...

One meaning people often use 'hate' word for is discomfort. It's often very subjective but it's not necessary a bad argument.

Does the author dislike react? How about preact? Or maybe simply jsx? Or nextjs?

There's nothing wrong with either of these if used correctly. Thus "hate" is a rather shallow argument.

Your argument that it’s a shallow argument is itself a shallow argument. ”I hate x” is not a technical argument anyway, it’s an emotional assessment.

As much as we like to think of ourselves as rational beings, emotions are still a very large part of our decision making process. I didn't build Qite because I hate React, I built it because I knew exactly how I wanted things to work. But I do hate React and it's part of why I knew exactly how I wanted things to work.

> As much as we like to think of ourselves as rational beings, emotions are still a very large part of our decision making process

And yet, plenty of people all around the world are able to get traction for their products without mentioning the hate of another.

> I didn't build Qite because I hate React,

I get that React being the most popular front-end framework means it's going to get it's fair share of criticism, but it's become pathetic the degree to which people have made hating it their personality. Even going so far as to market their own frameworks in terms of their personal feelings towards it.

Nobody is saying humans aren't emotional, you're trying to deflect from being unable to disconnect your emotions from another library.

It's React Derangement Syndrome.

I dislike React because it’s large, slow, and completely unnecessary. If I can write a spa that both 10x faster and 10x smaller without it then why would I bother with React? That isn’t any kind of syndrome. It’s me not wasting my time on vanity bullshit.

I really think autism has a lot to do with the necessity of large frameworks. They provide a vanity layer to hide behind for people who cannot introspect and cannot measure.

> I dislike React because it’s large, slow, and completely unnecessary.

You're personal opinion is irrelevant to the point I'm making. And that's exactly my point. For whatever reason people can't stop talking about their dislike for it. Going so far as to literally have it be your framework's tagline.

You can't even read a comment about Svelte without their need to bring React up.

> I really think autism has a lot to do with the necessity of large framework

No it's because the needs of the web have dramatically changed in the last 20 years. That's why people reach for things to help them build front-end apps. It's almost comical how different it is.

"hate" is not even an argument. It is obviously for those who dislike React or put it in another way: do not like to or would rather not work with React.

I will safely assume the author dislikes all that overly complex bloat bullshit and leave it at that. I am not going to autism this, as in invent a bunch of straw men to attack because there is some singular obsession silo of react-like fixations.

Calling preact bloated is pretty bold.

In my company, overuse of LLm and sloppy pasta is feature of those that you can't fire.

For me it destroyed company as aligned group of people, at C level, it's just bazaar of drones throwing AI slow at each other.

At my current company, people who don't use enough of their token budget get a stern talking-to from manglement ...

as it should be?

> at C level, it's just bazaar of drones throwing AI slop at each other.

I don't think it changed much from before LLMs. it's just that the slop is now automated.

Good to hear, some countries already have some privacy laws protecting is from this type of products. Anyone has share more specifics about those laws, how's that they are effective in this case (unlike GDPR which is annoying and usually toothless).

First sentence we would understand from Dolphins language: thanks for all the fish!

Exactly. I don't know how about "big design houses" like Apple, but in my small shop designers _only_ care about static screen stories. They don't care how user will click those icons, how focus will work, how any dynamic aspects of complex UI works.

In past it was "given" by desktop env, now it's all rebuilt in material or other design but without any advanced behavior, it only "looks good on static screen".

> Using this stuff well is a deep topic. These things can be applied in so many different ways, and to so many different projects. The best asset you can develop is an intuition

You're basically saying that using LLMs is like using magic. Telling people to use intuition is basically telling that i don't know how it works and why, but works for me sometimes.

That's why we programmers hate it - we have safe space where there's no intuition - namely programming languages & runtimes with deterministic behavior. And we're shoehorned back into mess of magic/intuition and wishfullthinking.

(yes, i try llm, i have some results, i'm frustrated mostly by people AI-slopping _everything_ around me)

Oddly enough I wrote about the magic analogy and why I stopped using is a few years ago (pre-ChatGPT, even): https://simonwillison.net/2022/Oct/5/spell-casting/

I am eternally frustrated that "intuition" is the key skill people need to work effectively with LLMs, because it's something I can't teach people! If I could figure out how to download my intuition into other people's heads I would do that.

Instead I have to convince people that intuition is key, and the only way to get it is to invest in experimenting.

It's like any other power tool. It requires skill to use it safely and efficiently.

Anyone can use a band saw to cut things. Then go look what Jimmy DiResta makes with one and you see the difference.

The chance of an inexperienced person cutting off their finger with a bandsaw is also way over zero, there are things you should not and must not do with it. As with any power tool.

Intuition is the wrong word IMO. Tacit knowledge is the thing. Knowledge that is hard to communicate and needs experience.

Problem with AI is it isn't woodwork. The material keeps changing!

Interesting observation and I have to relate - today I've measured ice thickness with classic stainless caliper - -3 celsius was enough for it to immediately glue to ice it was even barely wet.

Working such temperatures must be real hazard to skin, anything metal will glue to it immediately.

Let the metal cool down to the the temperature of the ice and try again. The problem isn’t generally that the ice is sticky per se; the problem is that the surface of the ice will melt if something warm enough touches it and then will freeze again and stick.

Well, I think that it depends on perspective and motivations.

Kissing asses/politics can be treated as skill used for different purposes. Imagine your ambition is to build bridge, skyscraper or fancy opera house.

To be chosen as the one for such projects, you must play many games including politics.

(I assume good intentions, selfish ones are possible too, but are they worth discussing?)