Another tangent: I see OneLogin, on their main site, lists the customers using their solution. I know this is a very common practice, but can anyone explain any (not short-sightedly financial) benefit possible for a company allowing this disclosure?
Sure! I can offer one reason that isn't purely "because we got a discount".
Imagine that you're a company not necessarily known for security prowess. Now imagine that you want to be able to demonstrate to users / customers / investors that you take security seriously and work with reputable vendors. You could list off the vendors you use, but then they're just taking your word for it. Wouldn't it be better if the vendor listed you?
Alternately, perhaps there are common investors or board members exerting influence.
There are reasonable answers in this subthread but don't discount the simplest one, which is that they asked and nobody at the client thought about it for more than 15 seconds.
Or the even simpler answer, which is that they didn't ask.
We put logo privileges in our standard contract just to see what would happen, and we got it a bunch.
In addition to to what the others have said l, sometimes the other business is willing to be a reference because they're happy with the product and want you to succeed. After all, they're using your product, its in their best interest that you succeed.
Pricing. Sometimes you can get better contract terms by allowing them to cite you as a customer. Usually pricing, but there are other terms you may negotiate as well.
As a side note... I imagine well probably see some of those customers coming down soon.
But usually these lists of "customers" is just someone trawling the user database for @foocorp.com and anyone signed up from there makes the company a "customer".
Definitely not as big as MySQL/Oracle, but one that I'm wondering most about is their open-source app server Glassfish. A big part of Oracle's BEA acquisition was bolstering their middleware suite (with WebLogic, et al.). Will Glassfish development continue? I hope so...
Back in the 1990s a bunch of us sysadmin types created an identical website where it graphed everyone's unix machine uptimes in a similar way (with variable length ePenises).
But back then, it wasn't twitter, it was just a small joke shared on IRC amongst friends. I had no idea back then we were 10 years ahead of the curve, and no idea that this sort of thing would reach global proportions and even start to be picked up and shown on TV.
The idea is crap, and there's very little future in it, but the lessons learned from it seem valid to a wide number of startups: find an influential champion to spread the word, make it easy to discover and use (a first time can measure their e-penis in a couple of seconds), and make it easy to share.
Its more of a viral marketing experiment. I have a strong disdain for viral marketing because instead of being able to ignore it your friends make you use the application.
I seem to remember reading a study (cannot find it at the moment) hypothesizing a lower food intake triggers an evolutionary response. Basically: hungry->must find food->more alert
A friend last week described some study which he said showed some evidence that as you consume calories, your body winds forward in age, and that very simply calorie restriction may wind your clock forward more slowly. I believe he said something about mitochondria was involved, but I might have just been having flashbacks to Parasite Eve. I just did a little googling and there are a few abstracts out there.
If you are a mouse on the chubby side, then eating less may help you live longer. For lean mice - and possibly for lean humans, the authors of a new study predict -- the anti-aging strategy known as caloric restriction may be a pointless, frustrating and even dangerous exercise.
Metabolically humans alternate between anabolic and catabolic modes: sleep and eat more, then work more with less sleep and food. Human metabolism is a sophisticated system for smoothing out highly variable energy intake. Always eating the same three squares a day isn't synergistic. I have found skipping meals when busy to be a very good idea. There's a reason all cultures have traditional fast and feast cycles.
The idea of sustained caloric restriction, however, is probably stupid. You just want variable intake, not low intake. First of all, the studies are only of rats and worms. Secondly, the studies fail to control for the fact that the starved animals get more exercise whereas the well fed animals languidly sit around.
I'd also add that if a new user sees inaccurate/out-of-date information they are very unlikely to ever trust the reliability of the wiki again. Something we're trying is asking those sympathetic to our wiki cause spot-check the wiki periodically to catch and fix glaring mistakes.
(I know, I know the idea of a wiki is a collaborative one, but you must take baby steps, especially in a large organization.)
I ran into a similar problem teaching myself perl a couple years ago by doing a short tutorial then foolishly jumping into a co-worker's code. "What the hell is '$.'? Hmm, well I'm sure Google can help me. What? No matching documents?!? What is this crazy s.o.b. doing here??"
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who's had trouble with this. I remember reading some C code once and I saw some strange operators I had never seen before... <? and >?, if I remember correctly.
I eventually figured out they were GCC extensions for "min" and "max", but only after a painful experience trying to get more info out of Google than "here's how you do addition and multiplication in C!"
I hadn't used my twitter account in months and just this morning got notification that lucille166 was following me. Is lucille166 just another of my enamored female fans, you ask. Nope, a porn bot. I wonder how much of the increase can be attributed to the influx of spam/porn bots to this previously (I'm assuming) pristine online landscape.
That growth references traffic, I believe. But by many other accounts they are growing rapidly. I don't think spam/porn is a HUGE problem yet, tho I've seen more following me (@webwright) lately.
I've also heard that their API traffic is 20-30x their web traffic, so when you see their web graphs, that's worth pondering.
The problem IMHO will be the fact that it's reasonably easy to make money from their web traffic. Making money from API traffic seems downright impossible to me.
Good to hear! The one issue I had with 7.10, requiring some xorg tweaks, was getting that same monitor setup working correctly. Here's to a smooth setup when I get home tonight :).
Which is nice, because video drivers were the only nontrivial thing that didn't work for me in Gutsy -- the free nvidia drivers don't work at all with my T61p, and the version of the proprietary driver in the repository was complete crap.
