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Well the reason apple trees make apples is actually that someone can eat them, and then ideally poop out the seeds so that a new tree can grow. But that is literally their purpose.


I on the other hand love it. I am often out without my phone closeby and having a way to take notes with one hand during some activity would be great.


My main concern here is that i live in an area that regularly get's below -20° and my electronic devices are regularly dying around me. And while I try to keep my hands warm-ish, they do get cold sometimes, and it would suck if a non replaceable battery died on me early because of this.


Hearing aids have had replaceable batteries since they were invented basically. I still remember my grandma 20 years ago fiddling with the small batteries, so that really is not a problem.


Me too, i hate that I would have to throw out a fully functioning device if the battery dies.


I understand that sentiment but I think its arbitrary. People buy lots of products that don't have a useful life exceeding two years. For example, every pet toy ever sold. Some will have higher impact for manufacturing and disposal than this ring.


1. Arbitrary it may be. You have to start somewhere. In that sense, anything we do is “arbitrary“. Straw man. (see also: ban of plastic straws)

2. I would expect pet toys to be regulated as well and to contain less environmental toxins and hard to recycle elements than batteries, so I doubt the claim about impact per item sold.


There is an endless stream of cheap battery powered pet toys flowing out of China with far more plastic, circuit boards etc than this watch.


As long as their batteries are replaceable, that’s fine, and if not, they will not be legally allowed to be sold in Europe. What point is it that you’re trying to make?


What difference does it make if you can replace the batteries in a toy the animal loses interest in within 20 minutes?


Then don't buy it? I'm not buying these toys, and why would I?


So people should make their own choices about the products they buy? Glad we agree. This thread is about a law that prevents it.


> So people should make their own choices about the products they buy? A little, yeah. Buy and don't use: your problem. Buy and can't use because I can't change the battery: subject to regulation. We can't stop anyone from making dumb monetary decisions, but we can stop products not being repairable.


And an endless stream of devices in the form of toys running full software stacks which never receive updates. Great, some products are as shitty. Perhaps we oppose those as well?


Good idea, and actually partly implemented as well in the EU. Security updates must be provided for a certain period of time for a certain class of devices, which is the reason why mobiles now receive updates for many years.


This is exactly the problem they're trying to tackle. Repairability goes further than just batteries.


I really like the thought and the format, but I do not like that I can't change the battery. Even if it is not easy, I still think there should be a way to change the battery.


It's still easier to turn around a ring than to fiddle with a a phone. And more legal as well, no laws against rotating a ring while rinding your bike. That's fully haptic, no is drawn from traffic for that.


Why do you need all of these tabs open? How do you find what you need?


I likely don't need all the tabs. Some were opened only because they might be useful or interesting. Others get opened because they cover something I want to dig into further later on, but in this case it's the buildup of multiple crash>restore cycles. Eventually I'll get to each tab and close it or save the URL separately until it's back to 0, but even in that process new tabs/windows get opened so it can take time.


I want to preface this by saying that I use almost only signal, but I do get the appeal. Walking out of the house and switching from wifi to mobile is so smooth, signal always takes a hot minute to reconnect, but with facetime (and for that matter meet and whatsapp video calls) you barely get a stutter. For the most part it really is a "it just works" solution whereas signal sometimes feels a little klunky. I don't mind, but I get that people value that.


While they can go in the organic waste bins, they still get sorted out at the end because they don't degrade fast enough.

Study from Australia: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0956053X2... Article from California: https://www.siliconvalley.com/2024/11/21/when-compostables-a... German Trash Company: https://www.zakb.de/keine-fremdstoffe-im-bioabfall


Sure and it might be that the teabags are also being sorted out.


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