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> There is no single company from Asia that deals in mass produced consumer goods that's capable of doing decent hardware and decent software at the same time.

Doesn't apple do most of their manufacturing in asia? I don't get your point. We certainly can't match this quality in the west.


> Doesn't apple do most of their manufacturing in asia?

Yes, but on the back of every MacBook there is the line "Designed by Apple in California" and the software is made in California as well.

Asia is just chosen for manufacturing because of the close proximity of supply chain vendors and cheap but reliable labor cost.


Well then Asia is de-facto doing the hardware. Apple is just paying for it.

Apple is famously sitting on a mountain of cash. How easily do you think they could replicate the supply chain of even one of their products without outsourcing it?


Apple is designing the hardware in the USA, not Asia. Asia designs the manufacturing process, which they are quite good at.

> Asia designs the manufacturing process, which they are quite good at.

Not even that, for some parts like the aluminium cases ("unibody") or the laser-bored microholes in their old magsafe connector for the LEDs, Apple designed the whole process.


ah, if only the rest of us had the willpower to simply choose to not suffer and to enjoy life instead.

Seriously, who do you talk to that enables such viewpoints? I suspect not many people want to talk to you after their shift.

Work isn't the problem; it's doing bullshit work that's undervalued so that morons who don't work can eat. This has held true at every part of the pay scale. It's just the compensation on the upper end helps you have hope you may find meaningful work that can feed you.

I suspect we all WANT to work. We just need to eat, too.


> ah, if only the rest of us had the willpower to simply choose to not suffer and to enjoy life instead.

Exactly! You have to find that path before it's too late. Each one of us have only 80 years at most.

> Work isn't the problem; it's doing bullshit work that's undervalued so that morons who don't work can eat.

Agree. Doing dishonest or unethical jobs is not real work and makes nobody happy.

> I suspect we all WANT to work. We just need to eat, too.

And within those two goals there is a great world of opportunities.


> why is it directed at making money rather serving society

i think this particular phenomenon is rooted in calvinism, particularly in North America, and calvinists hated humanity. It also wouldn't surprise me if the protestants coming over here normally prone to social responsibility (eg some lutherans) were less willing to show up for their community than those in the old world.


> and it makes you wonder how much of it is actual science

I don't wonder. You can look up egyptian texts with translations and pronunciation guides. We have literally hundreds of thousands of discarded papyri and plenty of papers detailing the archaeological processes of their excavations and interpretations. It's a gold-mine of explicit documentation about their practices and beliefs and logistics over millennia. We know about their diets, their genetics, how their ruling class changed over time, how they interpreted life and death, to the extent where we can draw likely religious transmission among stories with other near-east religions. The extent of evidence we have demonstrating actual knowledge is better than anything else in the ancient world.

Granted, interpretation isn't science, but it's still expected to be presented rationally. The linguistics that yielded the translation itself proved empirically very reliable.

There are many cranks into Egyptian history with many different agendas, though, and I'm sure many of them call themselves egyptologists.


From the way they describe how the message is read, it doesn't seem written very plainly at all. It would be odd to assume that this knowledge was accessible to many people if the manner in which it's written is only found in certain circumstances.

I believe you're still expected to be celibate once taking your vows.

No, married priests are not expected to be celibate (a term that in Catholic contexts specifically means “unmarried”) after taking their vows, they remain married.

Nor are they expected to refrain from sex within marriage, which may be what you mean.


What is the standard path for a married man to become a Roman Rite Catholic priest (besides being a married Anglican priest who decided to convert)?

Being a married Anglican priest is basically the only conventional way to do that. The discipline of celibacy is otherwise strictly observed.

Of course, if a married Eastern Catholic priest decided to join the Latin Church with the rest of his family, this could happen too.

But generally, a married man will want to discern the diaconate, as the priesthood will simply be out of the question, except in these exceptional circumstances.


> By the fourth century it became standard to forbid marriage because was believed that previously permitted marriage was only for individuals who remained celibate within the marriage.

On the other hand, de-facto marriages (say, a live-in servant woman the priest treated like a wife, including having sex with her) were overlooked by the catholic church on continental Europe well into the high middle ages.


If by "the high middle ages" you mean "2025", then you are right. Priests in de-facto marriages are still super common.

Those are not real marriages according to the Church. Any sexual relation in that situation would be fornication and as such a single.

I don't think I learned basically anything about "fancy architecture" from my undergraduate courses except, ironically, reasoning about coupling and overhead.

I don't see how the us is supposed to be any better. Why can't we use this energy to fight the rich people making this country a shithole rather than starting a beef we can only lose.

What would an american upper hand look like?

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