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In the Netherlands, there's a single ID you use for all official government services. It's essentially username/password with MFA, issued by the government. What is neat is you can scan your passports NFC chip with your smartphone as a means to verify your identity through this system.

Not sure how it solves any of the data breach issues, though.


This is what working with cloud services is like, in my experience. Azure's UI feels like it was made as a joke flash game on Newgrounds.


I feel Idiocracy is irresistible bait for 'not like the other girls'-types.

Everytime this movie comes up, droves of people mention how they get it, while others don't. It's becoming a trope in itself.


Agreed. It’s cited so often on Reddit by people who want to establish their superiority over the masses. “It’s a documentary!!” is a meme unto itself.

It’s also got a kind of weird eugenics-y vibe to it (like establishing “stupid people breeding makes stupid people” as incontrovertible fact) when you step back and examine it as a movie that’s making Serious Statements. But it isn’t. It’s not a bad movie. But it’s a comedy, the satirical elements are heavily over exaggerated by fans.


It's kind of funny when you say the movie isn't making serious statements when the highest of our publicly elected officials isn't a serious person. We elect people that are actively harmful to our well being. These people say things so incredibly stupid it can be painful. And then you wonder why people look at the movie like it's a documentary?


> We elect people that are actively harmful to our well being.

People choose policies that will actively harm themselves and their family/friends:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_of_Whiteness


He might not present as a serious person but he is. The nativist impulses, the gutter racism, the “F you I’ve got mine” attitude, the party establishment that enabled him despite all that… these are all serious things worth serious analysis.

“Stupid people vote for stupid guy” is exactly the kind of analysis I’m critical of Idiocracy for.


I think you may misunderstand what the term "not a serious person" means. Just because someone is an ego driven performer doesn't mean their actions don't have consequences, it means you've fucked up if you follow them and take them for face value.

There has been a ton of analysis for why said stupid people vote for stupid people, but very little of it can prevent said behaviors.


> “Stupid people vote for stupid guy” is exactly the kind of analysis I’m critical of Idiocracy for.

Critical of what exactly?


Just to be clear, the smartest person is still a minister in Idiocracy, and the whole premise hinges on the idea that the elite still recognizes intelligence as something desirable.


Trump voters identify with the idiots.


It's not a eugenics-y vibe. The inciting incident is dysgenics, and the in-narrative apocalypse would have been prevented by eugenics.

It doesn't preclude the movie from being enjoyed or appreciated. The movie also came out at a time when test scores, literacy rates, and whatnot were all _increasing_, so that was the more salient lens to criticize it by.

That trend has reversed now, though. I don't agree with the dysgenic narrative, but I have often found myself thinking, "Gotta hand it to the movie Idiocracy, it's feeling familiar".

For all its flaws, I was a child at the time saturated in post-Y2K optimism that tomorrow would always be better than the day before. It was one of the first things that made me seriously consider, "What if humanity is not on a linear path of improvement"?


This thread is a sort of extension to that, eh? Hacker News knowing the truth of a matter while observing Reddit down the barrel of a nose.


It’s a “I’m not like the other ‘not like the other’” virtue game.


Given the number of people in this thread saying “it’s a documentary” I don’t think there’s a significant difference. And there’s also plenty of criticism of Idiocracy on Reddit too.


Right, because you see the situation so much better than them ;)


No no no, see I’m at the very top of the hill. There’s no hill above me. No definitely not…

Oh gee, here he comes. Another person prepared to admit that what he knows is that he knows nothing.


Was thinking the same thing


I never understood that eugenics criticism of the movie. They make zero references to genetics in that opening sequence, and the nurture side of that argument is readily trotted out as a truism even here on HN: "people from affluent parents have easier access to education".


The introduction describes it as a "turning point in human evolution", and that "natural selection ... began to favor different traits". These are some of the very first sentences of the movie.

The thesis is given: "Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species". The characters dramatizing the inciting incident in the introduction are introduced with their IQs. It's very explicitly a dysgenic apocalypse narrative, which could have been avoided with earlier eugenicist intervention. (They attempt "genetic engineering" later on, but they fail, as the unintelligent are able to win by sheer numbers.)

It's okay to like the movie, and it is fiction. But it's certainly a dysgenic narrative which has eugenicist implications.


That's not a eugenics argument, that's merely an evolutionary argument (identifying a change in selection pressure). The eugenics argument would first have to make the case that the people are stupid/intelligent because of their genetic lineage rather than their upbringing.


To repeat, in narrative, they attempt genetic engineering to fix the declining intelligence.

On top of that, it is explicitly a dysgenics narrative, which comes with an implicit eugenics argument unless it's explicitly addressed.

I'm not trying to argue you can't like the movie (it is fiction, after all), but the eugenics argument is right there in the text.


This is one of those threads that's making me feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Like, I don't think enjoying Idiocracy makes someone a bad person or anything like that, but it's pretty clearly making a eugenics argument without any mitigating counter-hypothesis.

It's particularly amusing because there are people quoting Neal Stephenson in this thread, ignoring the fact that when Stephenson tackles similar subject matter, he's very careful to make it clear that he's talking more about the cultural axioms which have a long-term effect on how people value learning and intellectualism. It's not even subtext, I've been reading The Diamond Age recently and very early on there's a line where a character clearly states that there's no coherent genetic theory of human intelligence, and the entire thesis of the book runs counter to that notion that intelligence is primarily genetic.


"Stupid people raise stupid people" is probably a better way to put it.

but even then thats entirely too simplistic as well.


> It’s not a bad movie.

I hadn't seen it since it came out, but had a that kind of general movie recollection that it was as funny as it was prescient. Watched it again with my wife who had not seen it before: it's not funny. Maybe I'm getting too old.

(I do still laugh at the "Ow! My balls!")


> like establishing “stupid people breeding makes stupid people” as incontrovertible fact

That’s based on environment and not on genes. You might not be born “stupid”, but if you’re surrounded by retards (like in the movie), chances are you won’t be splitting atoms.


It definitely activates something within people. Maybe I'm just terminally online, but there is always _always_ someone who will say "Idiocracy isn't satire, its a documentary."


And they're mostly correct.


It's satire. It's effective satire because it's not all that much more extreme than the thing it's satirizing.


I don’t think that when people say “it’s a documentary” they mean that it’s literally a “documentary”, more like “this satire is so close to reality, that you can call it documentary”.


But we have a term for that and the term is "satire".


Not just 'other girls'. That happens, but also, it's a theme that has been around a long time. The 'Maga' movement existed before Trump. This is 1992

Was also in Snow Crash.

"All these beefy Caucasians with guns! Get enough of them together, looking for the America they always believed they'd grow up in, and they glom together like overcooked rice…With their power tools, portable generators, weapons, four-wheel-drive vehicles, and personal computers, they are like beavers hyped up on crystal meth, manic engineers without a blueprint, chewing through the wilderness, building things and abandoning them, altering the flow of mighty rivers and then moving on because the place ain't what it used to be.

The byproduct of the lifestyle is polluted rivers, greenhouse effect, spouse abuse, televangelists, and serial killers.

But as long as you have that fourwheel-drive vehicle and can keep driving north, you can sustain it, keep moving just quickly enough to stay one step ahead of your own waste stream.

"

Snow Crash Chapter 39 (Hiro's observation as he drives along the Alaska Highway)


> The 'Maga' movement existed before Trump. This is 1992

Anti-intellectualism has a long and storied in the US (and other countries):

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism#In_the_Un...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism_in_Americ...


Snow Crash came to mind, but so did several other Neal Stephenson books!


yes, I think his book "Reamde" had the concept of "Ameristan" which was the redneck-Idaho equivalent of many racial/religious/socioecon tropes.


Ackshually this is "Fall, or Dodge in Hell"


also

If the "Right/Left" or "Liberal/Conservative" is too hot button for any kind of discussion.

He also wrote "Anathem"

Which is fictional world, with fictional sides, that can be used to explore similar concepts a little less triggering.


for the uninitiated: the message is that serious pimping requires two D's, for a double-dose of that pimpin'


chortle i know that reference


I like money


I can't believe you like money too!

(For anyone that has not seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZHCVyllnck)


> I like money

I'm sorry, I might be a bit stupid but I haven't understood your comment.


Its a famous dialogue from the movie


What I find interesting is how AI enthusiasts will recursively offer AI itself as the solution to any of the issues you mention.

Since AI can read and generate code, it can surely fix code, or find bugs, or address security flaws. And if this all turns into a hot mess, AI can just refactor the whole thing anyway. And so forth.

Personally, I think we'll be some years off before the whole software loop is closed by AI (if it even happens anyway).


Could you elaborate in how you've built your own framework for making your monogame project available in web?

I've been using KNI but it's been a real headache getting my game to run on itch.io.


To be clear, the framework I built is independent of the MonoGame framework. As for how it was built, it's relatively straightforward. There are three layers: platform layer, framework layer, and the game layer. On the platform layer, I started by implementing a basic hello world-tier game loop using Win32 window/messaging APIs, OpenGL for graphics rendering, and OpenAL for audio playback. Then I wrote tidy wrapper layer functions for calling into the platform layer, with better ergonomics/readability, which the game layer calls. Then, I began adding WASM APIs at the platform layer, with branching #if statements in the framework layer that control whether src\platform\win32 or src\platform\wasm functions are called based on build target. In this way, the game code remained unchanged but support for web was seamlessly added (with some pain in adjusting the wrapper APIs to handle the large differences in Win32 and web APIs). Then repeated this process for each additional platform. The primary csproj is set up to branch into different csprojs per build target, with one using the Microsoft.NET.Sdk.WebAssembly project SDK, etc. Over time, I expanded features of the platform layer and wrapper layer as they were needed.

For the game I had already made progress on when trying MonoGame, I had already written a wrapper layer over the MonoGame APIs even before I had started on my own framework. My new framework wrapper layer was designed as similarly as possible, so transitioning my game code to the new framework was mostly painless, and only required adjusting the shape of some rendering/audio/input calls here and there.


I’m not the commenter that you asked, but I have also built a cross platform game framework with backends for SDLGPU and WebGL. The answer to your question is pretty basic. AI did it for me.

I asked it to create a canvas-like API, noting that it should create platform independent code. The canvas API populates arrays for vertices, indices, and other relevant things relating to draw batches. My game is built on top of this platform independent canvas code, and is itself platform independent.

Then you have the platform code, which simply reads the memory of those arrays and does what it needs to do to draw it in its environment. I have barely looked at the platform code but it seems to just work, and it is really performant. It around 1000 lines of code for the web target. The key is to use shared memory as the bridge between the compiled WASM code and the platform code for draw calls. As I said, it’s mostly just arrays of vertices, texture ids, and indices.

It took me some thinking on how to define textures in a platform independent way, but it all ended up working well. I bounced some ideas with the AI to come up with a solution just using ids.

From there I just kept adding more features, FMOD support, shaders, etc.

Edit: Oops, I misread that your comment was referring specifically to getting Monogame on web. I thought I’d leave it here anyway though because it might help you. The key insight for me was that the canvas API (and Monogame as well) is just batching up vertices, indices, into draw calls, before the platform specific stuff happens. I realised this after investigating how the Spine animation software was able to achieve so much cross platform support (it’s just providing triangles with texture ids to platform code). You don’t need any concept of a platform to represent the entirety of your games as triangles associated with texture ids in memory.


I also want to throw MonoGame into the mix here. Since its purely C#, Claude Code works great for it. It does mean you dont have the visual engine tools you get with Godot, but you could even get Claude to build these for your game.

Im personally finding it a lot of fun to work this way.


I read that as MomoGame at first and was very confused.

I'll have to give MonoGame another try. I was a big fan of XNA up until its deprecation. I went all in on OpenTK for a while, and in hindsight MonoGame would've been the better choice.


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