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Israel is getting more and more flagrant in their attacks on the US. I wonder if that's why they're also cranking up the PR? Just yesterday the Vercel CEO took a massive backlash for posting a pro-Zionist tweet that's pretty clearly propaganda: https://twitter.com/rauchg/status/1918517763644985605


Good morning is pro Zionist propaganda?


When it's in Israel and features the Zionist flag, then yes, absolutely.


How so?


Palantir is the police state. They are not redeemable, as they are fulfilling their original mission. I urge people to see what the founders say on X, chilling.

But we need whistleblowers inside.

Palantir should simply not exist and the executives should be tried for war crimes.

Ok, you’re right. Shut it down.

Should be rid of it by tomorrow then?


Musk bans people all the time. Remember the jet tracker?

No there are not. There are a bunch of moronic VCs saying incredibly stupid things and paying for blue checkmarks.

Literally all the Deep learning and systems whizs are on X.

This is why every VC loves vibe coding. Now let's talk about replacing capital with AI!


Yeah, but that's still missing the multiplied creativity we get from working in teams. Besides, we all know it's not going to work very well long term.

Drop the CEO and keep the developers instead!


In my experience the transient nature of the college town population means that they're all kind of run down in a particular kind of way, especially housing (how many drunken ragers can a 1 bedroom apartment really handle?). It's nice that they can be beacons of culture in otherwise rural areas, but there's definitely downsides to having a bunch of kids move in and out constantly.


> how many drunken ragers can a 1 bedroom apartment really handle?

Depends on how they were built. For some college halls in the UK, maybe a few hundred years worth?


They aren’t failing structurally, they are just in a perpetually ugly state because a landlord doesn’t care about keeping a property attractive that students will abuse.

So you end up with worn out carpet, paint flaking, broken door handles, etc etc.

That’s why there is a different much smaller but much better pool of properties for people willing to do an 18+ month lease.


They probably find it equally abhorrent that a European would come and police their culture. Please don't travel somewhere and complain about local culture. You're a guest, possibly and unwanted one.


I think you completely missed the point.


No, I’m sure I didn’t.


How do we know that this is "Puerto Rican Culture Plays Loud Music on Beaches"?

What if it's some obnoxious rebellious college kids who think they can get away with it?

What if it's some tourists, like from Cuba or Argentina, who are rich and so nobody in authority will handle complaints against them, because tourism feeds PR's economy so effectively?

What if most Puerto Rico residents don't really go hang out at the beach at all, and they stay home with their families, and they cook in the kitchen and they enjoy conversations?

What if Puerto Ricans are mostly like Americans, and their faces are all in their smartphones, and some of them play loud music and some ignore it, and some hate it but don't complain, and some complain but also play their own loud music to try and drown it out?

What if Puerto Ricans don't have one monolithic culture that you can generalize while we're here on an English-speaking forum, based on the mainland USA? What if Puerto Ricans don't actually eat elephants or giraffes? https://youtu.be/mzK9_TbzReQ?si=-QsUIwt_0SIcY-gt&t=28


The War of The End of The World is one of the best books I’ve ever read:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_End_of_the_Wo...


I have and this poster is spot on, he needs to go higher up the chain though. Investors hate employees, even founders. Founders are out to get rich. Executives are out to get rich but don't have what it takes to be founders. All of these people detest labor. They are the enemy you must work with to buy food. Treat them as such.


I feel like this is a very cynical way of looking at things.

I know some excellent people in leadership that have been promoted from lower level management jobs. I’m not sure the career change made them no longer care about people.


This is definitely how the capital class views labor. Don’t be fooled, and ignore at your own peril.


I wouldn’t really consider someone that moved from middle management to upper management/executive leadership to be a part of the “capital class.”

Investors, board members, maybe even some CEOs, sure.


If they’re upper management, they are tasked with doing the dirty work for capital. That’s their job.


That doesn’t mean they don’t care though. Now this could come from spending time at a company where the executives were only ~3 levels of indirection from devs.


They would lay you off in the blink of an eye or be instantly fired. “Caring” doesn’t really come into play.


It's not that the career change makes them not care about people. It's that it's practically impossible to get into upper management without eating others. People who don't embrace their sociopathic tendencies don't make it - they get out-competed by those who do. The very occasional exception just proves the rule, and usually doesn't last in any case because once they get to that point, they still have to compete to remain there.


That doesn’t work and these people have increased awareness of Microsoft’s role in the genocide. We’re literally talking about it now because if their sacrifice. Anyone clutching pearls over this was pro-genocide in the first place and not worth catering to.


> these people have increased awareness of Microsoft’s role in the genocide. We’re literally talking about it now because if their sacrifice

Every Fortune 500 company does business in Israel, which means it directly or indirectly supports their military. If someone is just learning that I'm not sure how useful they are to anyone's cause.


A lot did business with Nazi Germany too. Corporations need to be forced to behave in a moral fashion.


> lot did business with Nazi Germany too

And then we told them not to and they (mostly) stopped. The correct way to effect this change is politically. Not at a company anniversary party.


We're talking about it, so it seems pretty effective to me! The "won't people think of Bill Gate's feelings!" arguments aren't very compelling, just makes you look like you want to be complicit.


> We're talking about it, so it seems pretty effective to me!

Talking about an issue is productive if you need to bring awareness to it. There is nobody on the planet who isn't aware that something is happening in Israel and Gaza. And when an issue is this divisive, calling attention to it mobilises both sides. (See polling following the protests at Columbia, for example. Awareness went up. But net support increased more for Israel than Palestine because people just defaulted to their priors.)


Support for Palestinians has increased steadily since Israel started its latest genocide. I think you're confusing Zionist PR expenditures with actual support, which is rapidly dwindling for Israel.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/less-half-sympathetic-to...


> Support for Palestinians has increased steadily since Israel started it's latest genocide

I never argued otherwise. I'm saying look at the polling immediately after the protests.

Media reporting of atrocities drives down favourability for Israel. Media reporting of the protests drives down favourability for Palestine. It's why, despite favourability for Israel monotonically declining since 2023, its net favourability vis-a-vis Palestine blipped up in '24.


That's not true at all and you won't find a poll that backs up what you're saying.


> That's not true at all and you won't find a poll that backs up what you're saying

What's not? Literally look at the Gallup poll you cited [1] to see Palestinian favourability dip in 2024.

I'll note that part of it is the media's fascination with the pro-Hamas minority at pro-Palestinian protests. Organisers are getting a little better at screening those folks out.

[1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/less-half-sympathetic-to...


There's zero evidence that the protests have had negative impact on support for Palestinians. The media is staunchly Zionist, you could make the case the protests have effectively counterbalanced their propaganda.


> zero evidence that the protests have had negative impact on support for Palestinians

Of course there is [1][2]. (You see similar effects from e.g. bridge blocking in the broader protest literature.)

And again, what do you think happened in 2024 that caused support for Palestine per your source to drop?

> media is staunchly Zionist

The population has been broadly pro-Israel until very recently. The media market is, in the end, a market.

[1] https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/49311-opinion-on-...

[2] https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quick-takes/2024/05/03/p...


What happened? About a trillion dollars worth of hasbara, which in the end couldn't counteract the actual footage IDF were posting of their war crimes.


I’m starting to suspect you are arguing in bad faith. Three hours after you posted this, you posted [1] a sibling thread citing older numbers from the same source. Why did you do that? Over there your narrative was that support for Palestinians weren’t as great as your parent was arguing, so instead of citing this poll from this year, you posted an older poll from 2024 where support for Palestinians weren’t as great. You knew about this newer poll, but you still choose to post the older one that just so happens to align better with your argument.

Also this poll doesn’t back up what you are saying. These protests are as much anti-israel as they are pro-palestine, and support for Israel has been consistently dwindling. The protests continued throughout 2024 especially leading up to the November election, yet in 2025 support for Palestine was in all time high. Most likely the support dropped in 2024 because the horrors of the 2023 oct 7 terrorist attacks were still in fresh memory, so support for Palestine, which had been steadily increasing, took a momentary dip, but quickly readjusted at an increasing rate as the accusations of the Gaza genocide became ever harder to deny.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43617196


> you posted [1] a sibling thread citing older numbers from the same source. Why did you do that?

I’m citing the poll the commenter I’m responding to originally cited. Given they trust that poll, it made sense to respond to it. I was also making a point about a dip in 2024; the newer poll doesn’t update those data.

> support for Israel has been consistently dwindling

Literally what I’ve been arguing [1].

Support for Israel is monotonically decreasing. When protests are covered, support for Palestine dips.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43615994


For the record (not looking to argue, just pointing out interesting fact) this was just released today and shows for the first time that majority of Americans across all ages and all party affiliations have an unfavorable view of Israel (53%; up from 42% in 2022).

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-ameri...


Don't forget it all came to the center stage after a mass butchering at a music festival, few beheadings and some Jewish babies kidnapped. Pretty effective! What is a little terrorism for a greater good! /S


It may not have worked but it would have been the right way to do it. Then after it didn't work they could do more meaningful things that are higher visibility.

There's a right order in which to do things which lends credence to what you're doing. Right now they're just viewed as a bunch of idiotic disruptors because they didn't do things in the right order.


Is targeting families with ai “the right way to do it”? Office decorum doesn’t even register in importance.


Whenever there's protests, there's always people complaining that the protesters are doing it the wrong way - that's the history of protests and inevitably, the people complaining about the protesters end up on the wrong side of history (e.g. The Suffragettes went completely against the "rules of protesting" with such things as letter bombs).


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