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You probably want to follow this issue https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/5630



cool, that looks like progress!


It's an absolutely delicious cheese, but why write this nutritional nonsense about "perfect food"?


I love my Parmigiano-Reggiano too, but agree, it is not a perfect food (perfect in the sense of "complete"). It doesn't have much fiber for instance.


And it does have saturated fats and cholesterol more than you'd like.


I'm not sure about a cheese being prescribed as a cure... And also, I'm very tired about all those articles that talk about another new 'miraculous food'.


Click bait.


Very true. I've noticed in the past couple of years that the quantity of these kinds of articles on the BBC seems to be increasing, which is a shame because I've long considered them 'above' this kind of journalism. Just looking at their front page it seems over half of the articles are like this. On the other hand, I can understand why - people click and share these kinds of articles much more frequently, so I imagine it makes their advertisers very happy.


Promotional piece dressed-up as news, was my thought.




That paper is pretty good but it's comparing bw-tree with much simpler in memory data structures. I think bw-tress might work specially well for fast-disk storage.


This was my interpretation as well. I'm going to compare a disk-backed bwtree with a disk-backed ART, both backed by the same pagecache, and maybe end up with an ART that scatters partial pages on disk, bwtree style. But I need to measure apples to apples on the metrics that matter for storage first. The pagecache is where most of the complexity is in my implementation, and it makes building different kinds of persistent structures on top of it pretty easy. docs.rs/pagecache


>I think bw-tress might work specially well for fast-disk storage.

That's precisely the claim made in the original paper describing Bw-trees.

https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2510649.2511251


I understand the benefits of a single numeric type, but a type that doesn't support full 64 bits is just painful. It makes documentation smaller and benchmarks look good but often becomes a problem in real usages.


Wren does support 64 bit floats. For 64 bit ints, I find it's most awkward for interop with other languages, such as when using protobufs. If you control both ends, you can avoid this.


This is an insane comment, are you even aware of what's happening?


Interesting but I'd like way more details before preordering. The extended battery is specially appealing but it needs way more explanation.


This is great news!

Unfortunately it looks like they striped out some important things, notably the storage engine (there's now a sqlite fallback).

Edit: Apparently it was always sqlite as per replies bellow.


The storage engine is and always was a fairly heavily modified asynchronous version of sqlite's btree. It's been extremely reliable, which was always our top priority, and the performance isn't bad. But honestly when there was a problem with it our development velocity improving it wasn't great.

It's super easily pluggable[1], so now that it is open source people can experiment with other engines. I think there is a lot of room for improvement. Also architecturally it's designed in anticipation of being able to run different storage engines for different key ranges and for different replicas. For example, you might keep one replica in a btree on SSD (for random reads) and two on spinning disks in a log structured engine.

[1] https://github.com/apple/foundationdb/blob/master/fdbserver/...

It looks to me like Apple has made a pretty complete release of the key/value store. What's missing is

(1) Layers! Everything from relational databases to full text search engines to message queues

(2) Monitoring stuff. Unsurprisingly it doesn't look like we have the tools for monitoring log files, etc. Wavefront (also a major user!) is a great commercial solution, but there should be something OSS


Truthfully at Wavefront we've taken the json status directly into telegraf. Plus a bunch of python tooling to massage additional telemetry on a clusters health (coordinator reachability for example).

Plus even more tooling (mostly Ansible) for managing large fleets.


I saw @spullara do pretty neat stuff with our log files in Wavefront.

Will you guys think about open sourcing tooling? Apple is realistically never going to do that stuff.


Everything is fair game, being a monitoring company, we certainly will have first-class fdb support. We already have tons of workflows and templates.


The storage engine has always been SQLite for the SSD engine.


I don't think that is correct. My understanding from using fdb for years in production was that sqlite was the storage engine.



Much better than OP


I'm so glad that link got posted. That's my Medium publication, but the author, Buster Benson, has been doing amazing work in the space.

A lot of that work turned toward arguing effectively and I think that's an important topic in our divisive times.

Buster has a Patreon for the development of the book that is really good (he's very active and responsive): https://www.patreon.com/busterbenson


I did in my previous job. It was a good experience except around the time we started seeing corrupt LDTs (Large Data Type). I think a proper solution was never found and they eventually deprecated the feature. I'd recommend it IF you really think you can model your business on top of the KV interface.


It could be a modified JanusGraph frontend backed by DynamoDB.


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