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openClaw does so muhc more then Claude code tbh, running 9 agents from the one machine, schedual some tasks, add some personal personas for each agent, claudeCode (which i like alot) is on rails, openClaw is full openworld.

rate the analogy plz..


Google was built on ads and it wasn't bad for them, its no some tabu forbiden word or business model- as a power users its not for us, but for my mom - it will work

Adds should be a tabu word and business model.

It takes people's attention, makes people fat and anxious and generally makes the world a worse place.

Everybody using adds as a part of their business model should feel bad.

As an extention of this there is no moral issues with using add blockers, despite what the businesses living of adds try to tell you.


I agree. Also, Linkedin and CV's shouldn't exist. Self-promotion is gauche.

I don't think this is the slam dunk you think this is. LinkedIn's existence is, in fact, a net negative for the human race.

Bad for them how? I would argue it has destroyed the value of Google as a tool. Sure it makes them tens of billions of dollars a quarter, but it has ruined the service in the end.

Seems like people care about paychecks a bit more than some lofty goals and service to others.

Dont forget Elon, i am sure this news will come up on the up and coming OpenAI vs Elon Musk trail starting soon! I cant wait to hear all the discovery from this trail

Chinese models run around $2 to $8 dollars per million tokens - Claude is 10x that cost - when will the bean counters move to chinese models, USA bans these models for national security reasons - Anthropic, Openai, Meta, X all move to China where the models will be cheaper

this wont stop the pay per token system being forced onto its users - lets see how much you'll be prepared to pay? Powerusers paying $15/$40 per day?

Turns out AI is expensive… who knew? Giving it away for free was a predatory trap to create dependency. Now that they’ve captured enough market share they can try to cover their costs. The interesting question will be if it’s even even possible for them to turn a profit without a cartel or massive government subsidies.

Where I work we have people who are well past $40/day of Claude usage.

Chinese models bro $2 per million tokens - yes i am playing with some of these models

Figma should be worried


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