are you seriously arguing for having to interact with the justice system for not responding to an email within an hour as anything but totally wrong? jesus christ, where am i?
that's until tech-savvy people make a simple script/installer for the common folk. something like what happened with the LOIC. it's a cat & mouse game and i'm willing to bet there are far more hackers outside of goverment than inside it.
UBI is not a socialist invention. In fact you'll find a lot of opposition to it on the left for various reasons, ranging from opposition to enabling people to live off the back of others, to a belief it's a thin wedge to reduce welfare.
The socialist slogan is - as Marx pointedly remarked in "Critique of the Gotha Program" -, not an argument for equality but "from each according to ability, to each according to their need"; for substantial parts of the left, the idea of society paying people if they're not contributing is directly in opposition to a central concern of their ideologies to prevent people from doing just that.
As careful as one should be about talking for the dead: Had Marx been alive today, he'd probably join you in opposing UBI, for similar reasons.
Rather, the idea stems from people like Thomas Paine, and was bolstered by experiments in the US and Canada in the 60's.
Recently it was rediscovered first and foremost by liberals (in the European sense; in other words mostly centrists, again by European standard, followers of classical liberalism) explicitly as an alternative to left-wing welfare systems.
only if you subscribe to the notion that current social democracies are not socialist.
"opposition to enabling people to live off the back of others"? strange, the left implements that everywhere already.
and of course marx would be opposed, because his belief in LTV is an entirely different kind of wrong.
i wholeheartedly agree. the present crony capitalism and government interventionism into the market are damaging to the honest enterpreneur - one that doesn't have a senator's ear. the only way for free market to work is for goverment to back off. it's good that at least one other person understands that!
Agreed. Capitalism and the prioritized pursuit of profits have only created the problem of poverty and wealth gaps that we now find affecting everyone.
Talk about socialist nightmares, look at the sun, all that energy hitting earth, and no one's paying for it, no one's responsible, and it's got nuclear power! We should nuke it!
You can't just call something a nightmare. You have to point out to these blindly privileged rich knuckleheads that the garbage man won't be taking out the garbage if UBI comes to pass.
No shit. He won't. Not unless you pay him 300,000/year and that's a whole other kind of economic catastrophe.
It's no economic catastrophe. If the market price for garbage collection by people not threatened with starvation is 300000/collector/year then there is a very strong incentive to automate it.
It also rather depends on the level of UBI. If I can just live frugally on my UBI, but by getting a 20 hour-a-week job collecting rubbish I can afford to eat out and take foreign holidays then I would have a strong incentive to carry on doing it. I might demand that my boss treats me better in general though, which could lead to a labour market where the environment and conditions are as important as the pay
if the market price for garbage collection rises that high, every other job that seems 'better' will have to rise the pay too, else people will all go into garbage business. who will clean my seat at the peep shows then?
and if every job costs that much, the product of it will have to cost accordingly. in the world of UBI, either a loaf of bread will cost 300000 of cold hard cash, or there will be no one to build the first generation of your precious robots. hence the nightmare.
anyway, back in the 1960's some idiots already forewarned that factory automation was fast approaching and it would make everyone lose jobs. google automation hysteria. what they proposed was eerily similar to UBI. this new iteration is just history repeating itself. guess they didn't predict society just changing to find new jobs.
i think it's called connecting a lauterbach or whatever to the server and giving remote access to the machine running the debugger. we just need a catchy name for it.
Just because alpha zero doesn't solve the problem you want it to doesn't mean that advancements aren't being made that matter to someone else. To ignore that seems disingenuous.
