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Protesting ICE while they work is constitutionally protected free speech.

You are saying that people should give up their most important rights simply to avoid inconveniencing the government. It is the grossest form of bootlicking I've ever seen.


It may just be that soon the protesters discover that you can simply go and hug a criminal as "protest" and then blame it on law enforcement should anything negative happen to them. I guess your interpretation would still be that it's "constitutionally protected free speech"? I beg to differ and also think the legalities of these situations will likely be hashed out soon enough.


Imagine if this thing I made up was true and you support it because I said so


You are losing me with this argument..


Following the social contract in the face of gross violation of the social contract is a foolish and immoral enablement of even larger violations.

When the other party to a contract violates the contract, you don't keep following your side of the contract. That is literally not how contracts work.


An administrative warrant is no warrant at all. It's just a lie made up to try to trick people into compliance.

The constitution clearly says who can issue a warrant and it's not random law enforcement officers.


As I said, it's more like an internal departmental memo. It serves a purpose internally, but trying to use it outside of that context is mostly a category error.


The document itself may have an internal purpose, but there is no legitimate purpose served by calling it a warrant. That serves purely to mislead.


That's not correct. It's a "warrant" in the literal sense: it authorizes federal immigration agents to detain someone for civil immigration violations. Since they're not judicial warrants, there are constitutional restrictions on how they can do that, which I enumerated in my previous comment.

The game ICE is playing takes advantage of the exact misunderstanding you've described - that anything called a warrant must be a judicial warrant. That's not the case, they're just exploiting people's bad assumptions.


You claimed organized crimes; not simply organized resistance. What crimes are they organizing?

Resistance itself is not criminal, especially when many of the actions they are resisting are themselves illegal. In fact, it is our civic duty to resist illegal or immoral actions by the government.


Obstructing a federal agent and resisting arrest are crimes.


It becomes organized crime if they got paid for their actions.


Nice non-sequitur. I asked what crime they allegedly committed, not whether it was organized.

Surely organizing and paying people to do things by itself is not a crime.


"Disorderly" protests are protected by the first amendment. No justification is needed. That is the law. Enforce that law and stop ICE from harassing people just for exercising their fundamental rights.


The extra precision is fake.

They might have measured precisely at the weather station, but local variation in temperature makes that extra precision meaningless unless you are located exactly where the measurement happened.

Even in a climate controlled room, there will be a degree or two of variation between different parts of the room.


for another example of this: a lot of people "know" that the average human body temperature is 98.6 degF.

that extra decimal point gives people false confidence about the measurement being more precise than it is.

because so much science (even in the US) happens using the metric system, the actual measured average [0] is 37 degC, and 37.0 degC == 98.6 degF. the nuance of the average being more of a confidence interval (37 +/- 0.5 degC, possibly larger) gets lost as well.

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body_temperature


It's a positive move, but too little, too late. These same publishers have already been available DRM-free from other stores for a long time.


No, these publishers were already available DRM-free from other stores.


Not taxing tips is terrible policy. Why privilege that one form of income over others?


Overtime is not taxed now either. There's a lot of good tax policy that will impact low and middle-income families.


Because practically all of the other browsers are based on one made by a company that makes its money through ads.

There's no getting around a fundamentally misaligned incentive like that.


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