Yeah, really annoying ^^

Didn't include that, but that's a great feature.

RIP Skype.

This is so good, well done

Thanks very much

Business is about people more than it is about product.

Awesome, thanks!

Have you ever tried to join a Cisco Web X meeting? Takes longer than the meeting...

Skype is a disaster...

If I could refund you your time, I would.

I think people just jumped on the 'Zoom bandwagon' and assumed it was great, because everyone kept saying how great it was.

Zoom does just work - I've used hangouts/meet, skype, whereby/appear.in, discord, talky

Of all those Zoom had the best balance of stability/resource use/call joinability

I find meet a PITA to set up and invite random people

WebRTC browser chat is great for rooms >= 6 people and is my preferred choice

But zoom works pretty well from 1:1 up to 500:1 and is very easy to join

Don't get me wrong, I hate the Zoom client but when the target audience is everyone in your company, including your PC illiterate middle managers, then I can see how Zoom is quite good

I have to say, I've found both Google Meet and Discord to be more reliable in the "just works" department (despite neither being perfect). My experience with Zoom was a job interview where the link kept asking me to install a browser plugin, even though I already had, even if I clicked a link that was apparently a web fall back.

I think I had to use a phone dial in in the end

I wonder if you might have been sent a WebEx link? That doesn’t sound like Zoom.

AFAIK Zoom doesn’t use browser plugins but WebEx definitely does.

It's been 2.5 years, so can't verify, but almost certain it was Zoom. Possibly it was the desktop app it was asking me to install.

The problem with Discord is a lot of people can't figure out how to use it. It also requires sign up

I don't like zoom UI and graphical design but the application is relatively easy to get used to and its core (conferencing) works. And enough people started using it so people felt safe to invest time into it. I think That's what and why people like it.

Doh—the irony. What'd you prefer?

I stopped halfway through your presentation, even though I am a Zoom-objector so I thought I would be the perfect audience for this kind of content. Here's a recent hackernews-frontpage blog post which relied heavily on images, but I found it less onerous to read:

It's the old fashioned way I'm afraid (longform single page, vertical scrolling, visible proportional scrollbar), perhaps I'm just old.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23551983

https://tonsky.me/blog/monitors/

Yeah, this is a great blog. Certainly some things that are easier to read about that.