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On the push notifications side, Batch (disclaimer: I'm a founder), is very solid:

https://batch.com/features


How does your pricing work for my app that is very bursty with regards to notifications? Think real time sports scores.


I can't fucking believe it. How does something like that happen?


for some reason the Gates/Zuck drop out references always forget to mention what school they actually dropped out from


Exactly. Success is a quality of the person, not their education. Thus, in reality, dropping out isn't really going to matter one way or another.


So you're not just a "sarcastic tech blog commentator", but also a harsh blog post commentator :) But you're right. Removed it. Thx for reading til the end.


That wasn't a harsh comment.

What is a harsh comment (and an annoying trend among all the "I got on Product Hunt: look at me!" posts) is that you encourage vote cheating ("It is perfectly fine, however, to promote your Product Hunt page on your groups, forums, internal communications, etc. Introduce your community to the featuring on ProductHunt, but don’t encourage them to vote one way or another.") because it isn't explicitly against the rules, but you don't realize why that's a bad and unethical thing to do.


I have to disagree with you on this one. This was discussed with the PH team beforehand. We wanted to know exactly what was cool to do, and what wasn't. And we followed their rules very closely.

See: https://twitter.com/ProductHunt/status/542336884861845504


[Disclaimer : I know Batch's founder, but this comment will try to be very objective]

Allow me to disagree. Product Hunt is a platform that lets users vote for the best products. Asking for upvotes is wrong, because the people you ask feel obligated to do it. When you let people know you're on Product Hunt, they have the choice to go upvote or not. If it's a good product, they will go and upvote it. But this is the essence of Product Hunt. Filter good products and make other users aware of good products.


> But if you are promoting to people who are your friends or are already fans of your product per the original quote, they are not necessarily unbiased and are not necessarily voting on the merit of the product itself.

Their article states : "It is perfectly fine, however, to promote your Product Hunt page on your groups, forums, internal communications [...] community to the featuring on ProductHunt, but don’t encourage them to vote one way or another."

They are not including "friends" in there. And when it comes to people who are already fans of your product, no - they're not unbiased. But that's the thing : they tried the product, and loved it. Which is exactly how word of mouth works in real life. You try a product, you love it, and you tell you friends about it. And that's the whole point of PH : surfacing great products.


> When you let people know you're on Product Hunt, they have the choice to go upvote or not. If it's a good product, they will go and upvote it.

But if you are promoting to people who are your friends or are already fans of your product per the original quote, they are not necessarily unbiased and are not necessarily voting on the merit of the product itself.


I think I've lost you there, thanks for your thoughtful comments though.


Easy, just go to an app page. Say, Inside for example:

iOS – https://batch.com/insights/app/ios/inside-com-breaking-news

Android – https://batch.com/insights/app/android/inside-com


And you'll have a lot of statistics there, such as the average number of words / characters used in all of their push notifications, frequency etc. That's really useful to get an overview.


Answer below on what is does. We address some specific demographics so it's not necessarily something useful for you if you're not in mobile dev/product/marketing.

"Are you running a bunch of Android and iOS devices, installing apps, subscribing to push notifications in them and then gathering data that way?"

That's the basic idea except that we use virtual machines mostly, combined with some hardware components.


What's your category exactly? Happy to look into it for you.


That we can certainly add very quickly – thx for the great suggestion.


Nop :)


Good question!

There is a lot of work to be done to improve the quality, uniqueness, and usefulness of mobile notifications. Before Batch Insights, there was no way to get a comprehensive view of the notifications sent by gaming/m-commerce co's or news outlets. Now, as a marketer, product manager, or developer you can use Batch Insights to become inspired and develop a more effective and differentiated strategy.

There are a lot of unanswered questions about the industry's use of mobile notifications, such as:

1. In the media industry, were you first to broadcast the news on Ferguson. See > https://batch.com/insights/all?language=en&search=ferguson%2...

2. How is your competition using notifications? Track a specific vertical such as games and monitor them in real-time or follow custom groupings of the apps that matter to you. See > https://batch.com/insights/all?category=games&language=en

3. In gaming, some use incentivized notifications to reengage, others try to make you feel sorry. What's your strategy?

4. How unique is your message from day to day? Which days are most popular for certain messages? You can view statistics on the content of your notifications, as well as others'. See > https://batch.com/insights/app/ios/inside-com-breaking-news

Being mobile developers ourselves we've been dying to know. Batch Insights tries to answer these questions.


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