I don't see how all sites can comply nor do I think they should. However this really begs additional legislation to clarify the issue.
What we need to identify is essential goods and services and any retailer offering such needs to provide reasonable accommodation if the method of the offering makes it feasible. The issue with some handicaps is that within each there are levels of impact. So that needs to be considered.
With regards to the statement earlier where I think not all should be required I am just having mental block in understanding how would I communicate to a blind person a site like ebay where users put up goods and the vast majority rely on visual cues. Now the ordering and payment functions surely can be adopted but when you have user driven content what is a vendor to do?
So, back again to legislation so that the courts don't much it up so much it becomes a paradise for predatory lawyers.
Sorry, just look at which school systems are still closed to this day regardless of the science. NYC union leadership rebuked the CDC when their guidelines did not meet NYC union rules.
Where as much of the rest of the country has had children in schools just fine for months.
You can damn well place a lot of blame on the unions because they are not there for the welfare of students and no action they have taken shows otherwise. If anything they guarantee the least needed teachers will ever end up in schools desperate to have them. They will go after any alternative means of education which includes home teaching, something they have effectively now forced on many minority families in our largest cities.
The science is not clear-cut. Many "minority families in our largest cities" have been polled and support continued distance learning while the pandemic is ongoing. In the urban district that I grew up in, I know this to be the case, I am not sure about in NYC.
I think it is funny that outsiders on an anti-union crusade will continue dismiss what students & parents who actually go to schools like these say many of the problems are.
e: And I'm not saying unions are entirely unproblematic. I had a few (2 or so) teachers who were protected. But they are so far from the root cause of the dysfunction in our urban schools. Informal segregation is a much bigger piece of the puzzle.
This gives me new perspective. I wish we had more discussion like this.
If all media could list facts and stats, and lay out all kinds of reasons and assumptions. Unfortunately, both left and right media are doing the opposite. For instance, some right labels NYC teacher's union as a woke entity. The teacher union said that reopening school was racist. And Twitter, oh, the almighty righteous Twitter, simply bans the accounts who are opposing CDC's guidelines. It's just so hard to see influential medias and platforms to engage nuanced discussion.
* Evidence that minority parents in my school district favor distance learning while the pandemic continues. I couldn't find the original stat because the thread was deleted, but here is a similar poll showing the same thing (https://www.the74million.org/article/as-more-dcps-schools-op...)
Thanks. I was not challenging your comment. Instead, I was trying to compliment yours, as it gives a new perspective on why teacher's union didn't want schools to open. Otherwise, I had this impression that the union used racism to hide their true motives.
I replied to another poster but let me double down the fun.
Well first off, especially in low wage jobs, there is little they do for you and it can cost nearly two hours of your pay per month for the benefit. You get this wonderful set of rules which spells out what your employer can and cannot do but it also limits you as well. I got first hand experience in a union shop from late 1980s to early 1990s. My reward was seeing our rep once a quarter if we were lucky in her Mercedes which cost more than we made.
However for every complaint about people being anti union and listing off "Bunch of facts" you never see those same people list their facts that support a pro union stance. Most of the time its little more than what people already have with some variation of something they won't even get when unionized.
The simple fact is, in the US they are more political than worker oriented. They feed a ridiculous amount of dues and even state funds into political coffer so they come replete with lots of wonderful political supporters and press who love to lay the claim that workers will be better for representation. The benefactors are political appointees, elected officials, and union leadership. The workers are mostly pawns.
What I read about European unions would be very nice to see in the states but what I experienced, family members have experienced, is not this fantasy that some people have of what its like here.
I was a union member back in the last 1980s through 1990s early. I was in a low skilled job where we paid our dues and got exactly nothing for it. Oh we had a wonderful contract that specified it all. It was great for basically keeping anyone new boxed in. Each quarter if we were lucky we got a visit by our local union rep in her Mercedes which cost more than many of us made a year. So I am so not a big union supporter and lean against them.
On another personal note, they spent decades harassing my uncles, now cousins industrial roofing business calling OSHA and other inspectors out to where even the OSHA representatives joked about it. It became a coffee break for them. All this over a company with less than thirty people at max.
So while they may have some application on higher paid jobs when you are low wage there isn't much they do for you other than suck two hours of wages or more from you each month.
People here glorify unions have no experience with them at the level that would have been seen in Amazon. They have these grandiose ideas how everyone benefits. Oh don't get me wrong, you are likely to get some changes that are beneficial, but in the end you are still exactly where you are before but now its all in nice pretty print writing which spells out exactly how you aren't going anywhere fast. Oh, don't forget the monthly payout (could be weekly in some places) and don't expect much if you ever actually reach strike stage.
Unions also start boxing out new experienced employees. The railroads have no way to bring in experienced workers from other industries because everyone is mandated a certain starting wage by the union...entry level wages ($50k) plus overtime. Looks exactly like regulatory capture.
You see this in a lot of industries that are unionized, if you move across the country or have a life change and are in a unionized environment you can be screwed by a) losing seniority and b) comp can drop.
Had a friend who was a pilot. Personal situation - moved, wanted to live in base rather than deadhead yadda yadda - you start off at ground zero at the new airline - literally next to guys with no time on type (and you could have thousands of hours on type - which is years of work).
This is what happens when union reps are in bed with the company they're supposedly holding to account. It happens because of corruption and nepotism, not because of unionization.
I might recommend to watch Waiting For Lefty to understand the distinction.
If it is anything like the US this would fall under petty theft and it will never warrant police notice near as much as violent crime and higher value theft nor enforcement of many traffic and property laws.
Doesn't mean someone is not losing anything but if your authorities are like ours there is just so much of it going on they cannot afford to prosecute it all for cost and more importantly, because crime statistics would show higher numbers than palatable.
Example, in California increased the dollar amount on petty thefts and damages to nearly a thousand dollars. This includes shoplifting, breaking a window to steal a small value item, and more. This effectively excuses the police from bothering because they know most courts for these crimes operate on catch and release.
Now, if your bike costs more then insure it. Sadly this is what a lot of society has become, we accept a certain level of loss because just as you can find many people who want these thieves jailed there are numbers who will claim its not their fault but societies fault for not providing.
You can't simultaneously want the police to do something about fairly small property crimes on the one hand and get upset with a lot of people being imprisoned for minor crimes on the other hand. There's not much point in prosecuting someone if they're just going to get a stern talking to if they're found guilty.
No one seems to understand this. They lament their stuff getting stolen and in the same day plan their next anti-police protest.
I personally believe the police have totally forgotten their mandate. They’ve become so focused on the big fish, they’ve lost all appetite for anything that doesn’t have the potential to lead to a big press conference.
I want every single little crime investigated like NCIS, not because I think it will lead to less crime (I know the jury goes back and forth on this one), but because I think people don’t feel safe in their neighborhoods anymore, they constantly feel like their neighbors are gonna steal from them and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. If instead cops started taking all this stuff seriously, and the courts had a better way to handle it, people would be happier and feel less antagonistic against those they perceive as other (white, black, etc)
government subsidizes everything to one level or another. to say it is subsidized higher than other sectors within agriculture is more meme than fact. some segments may be depending on your country. in the US we subsidize everything to include corn for ethanol to cotton which we ship to China and receive back as finished clothing.
the issue has always been subsidies are politicians means to show their constituents they are doing their job, bringing home the bacon. however the rules and regulations are stacked such that only very large farms and organizations see real benefit.
US wise, most subsidies are towards guarantees of rates. Dairy and Meat get picked on a lot because they are very noticeable but much of the numbers assigned to them are because corn is a feed product and the biggest crop in the US by far. Throw in that many who don't care for animal farming will then associate any other subsidy they can find, to include WIC payments shows just how much a stretch it becomes Outside of pandemic years the estimates for all of agriculture in the US ranges from the low twenties in billions to highs in fifties. Again, depends on what you count.
The real issue isn't what we are subsidizing in this case but that we don't insure that the small farms are compensated as well as large private and commercial farms are because the regulatory burden puts obtaining such funds into the category of not worth the time and money
Well I do know the the fire in Japan which wiped out a very important plant resulted in BMW shipping a brand new motorcycle without TPMS or even its radio. Worse for my dealer, they were were only allocated three the entire year, a dealer where they expected two dozen of that model.
Crucial as a definition in that the downstream effects are massive.
Imagine living a life where every thing you do is questioned if not actively managed. A life of privileged yes but a life not always your own.
Plus the guy served in an active combat role in WW2 so my hat is off to him. I have a Great Uncle nearing that age who served and I will never not give them a pass.
This day and age people will run away screaming about their rights before serving their fellows in any capacity let alone one that is dangerous and possibly life ending. People who will create any reason under the sun to denigrate another who usually has done far more in life than they will ever dream of.
Well we the consumers helped to create the new normal. There is no shortage of stories, comments, and the like, where people decried how evil it was for cable/satellite companies to bundle up everything and not allow us to choose. So we all flocked to streaming services declaring the freedom to choose and how much we saved.
Aggregators will have to return in some form or another but the danger here is that they likely not going to be independent from the studios as cable companies were in their original days; many were later bought up by big media conglomerates.
The difference though now is what we have now is not the same as theaters being forced to buy blind and entire set of movies. We are not prevented from having any number of streaming services.
Plus we can still binge watch series just like we did during the early days of netflix and hulu. we were binge watching series that had already had their weekly release schedule played out. you can do the same with current services, wait till the current season plays out then subscribe. now if services actively prevent binge watching a series then they should be called out on it - though not necessarily regulated over it.
We are still in the shake out period. There are so many services and some are cheap and others mind numbingly expensive for the content they offer. I don't expect them all to survive so their content will syndicate elsewhere.
What we need to identify is essential goods and services and any retailer offering such needs to provide reasonable accommodation if the method of the offering makes it feasible. The issue with some handicaps is that within each there are levels of impact. So that needs to be considered.
With regards to the statement earlier where I think not all should be required I am just having mental block in understanding how would I communicate to a blind person a site like ebay where users put up goods and the vast majority rely on visual cues. Now the ordering and payment functions surely can be adopted but when you have user driven content what is a vendor to do?
So, back again to legislation so that the courts don't much it up so much it becomes a paradise for predatory lawyers.