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How do you expect those independent experts to be chosen? Even then, how do expect these experts to "objectively address" the issue? I don't agree with partisan politics, but the solution isn't demanding independent, magical objectivity, because that doesn't exist, regardless, everyone would claim to have it, the liars and the idiots especially.

If we want better representation of the facts and the People's opinion, we need better representation. The current system lacks nuance and seems to be subject to Elite interests over popular ones.


The argument is two-pronged (probably more, but let's restrict it to two): firstly, yes, that diversity can improve gains, but secondly that the current skewed proportions were created by both active and passive discrimination which, to some extent, still exists today (though mainly in the passive form). Considering it from a purely utilitarian perspective doesn't quite do the issue enough justice.

It's essentially a moral argument: women and minorities deserve equal treatment and opportunity, but due to stereotyping and social inertia (i.e. girls don't grow up seeing many women in technical fields, so they aren't compelled or don't even think to join them), they don't currently get it.

To answer the question:

> Still, if women, men and people of different ethnicities and races all have such fundamentally different backgrounds, why would you expect them all to choose the same fields in the same proportion?

I think we'd like to assume that everyone can essentially do whatever they want, but just choose not to, but we simply can't because we've never had an equal starting position to begin with.


I fail to see how industry problems ripe for technical solutions equate to cash grabs. Problems are essentially the basis of every startup (if we generalize a little), and I can assure you that engineers can be passionate about solving a problem.

I also don't really understand what you mean by giving people the experience of something you were creating in the past. What does that mean? As advice it seems exceptionally vague; something an writing teacher might tell me to write about, but not solid advice for founding a startup.


There's no simple solution here. Part of the Alt-Right platform, as I have it, is that the media (be it news or social media) is corrupt and bent on silencing them. Suspending their accounts would only reinforce that belief.

I would also hope that we can come up with a solution that doesn't involve hindering others's ability to communicate. Even if it is the simplest and most effective tactic, it seems like that's just fighting the symptoms rather than the disease.


> Patriarchy and the fact that white males dominate the corporate world is apparently something that should be "changed"

It seems to me that social superiority was part of the conversation to begin with. The OP wants to celebrate being a white male and apparently doesn't believe that the social superiority of white males is something that needs to be changed.


Hmm, actually I guess the intent there is ambiguous, but on re-reading the inclusion of "Patriarchy" is suspect...


You say that like anyone can just up and go back to university or simply create their own service (presumably some new, inventive one because the one they just had is already nearly perfected by machines). Neither of those things are especially easy to do with a decent paycheck, and these people wouldn't even have that.


Not just anyone, but the possibility is there. Stories of business owners who made it starting from nothing are not rare (obviously many fail as well) - but do not underestimate the resourcefulness of people who have their back against the wall.


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