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>>> MrMan 14 minutes ago | link | parent | flag

HN members' opinions of themselves are inflated and entertaining. I really enjoy the stream of sometimes-interesting links posted on the front page. I also get a kick out of the navel-gazing, the smug self-congratulations, the herding, the tempests in various teapots, while kettles are black. The content contributors think the site is about them, while it is really about maintaining a halo effect for a startup incubator. <<<

I don't mean to be condescending, but you do know that you just proved his point, right?


There actually might be a precedent over here.

Heinlein came up with a "waterbed" for a few of his books (it was mentioned quite prominently in Stranger in a strange land) Later on a man called Charles Hall tried to patent his design, and he was denied the patent by the USPO on the grounds that Heinlein's description in Stranger in a strange land, and Double star constituted prior art.

It would be fascinating to see if this precedent is followed...


I still like the Donald Duck cartoon used as precedent for that method of raising a ship, personally. I think that someone linked to a previous HN discussion of it below.


Unless Kubrick detailed how the tablet worked and its general layout at the software level, I doubt it.


As somebody already mentioned below, the case in question is based on a design patent. A design patent only protects the ornamental design of something not how something works.

A tablet shown in a movie is a perfectly fine and perfectly usable example of a publication of an ornamental design.


It appears to have a control panel with buttons along the bottom of the screen tilted at an angle. Does the iPad? No-one touches its screen that I noticed, but I'm not sufficiently motivated to sit through 2001 to find out for sure.

Samsung's theft of Apple's very specific decorative designs (witness their remote that looked EXACTLY like an iPhone 4) is so egregious that if it were, say, a nameless Chinese entrepreneur selling knockoff purses in Chinatown no-one would be especially surprised if their stock were seized and a few people imprisoned over it. This isn't, say, Ferrari suing Maserati for creating a coupe with four wheels, it's Ferrari suing Hyundai for creating a coupe that looks EXACTLY like the current model Ferrari. No offense to Hyundai -- they pay actual designers to design their ugly-ass cars.


Oh please, Microsoft Surface...how many years ago was that before your precious iPad? There is probably not a single thing that Apple designed that is not without precedent. It just looks that way to your infatuated eyes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Surface

Microsoft Surface came out _after_ the iPhone. But what the hell does that have to do with anything?


You definition of exactly just has to be funny.


The 'exactly' part is especially funny, given that the tablets have a different screen size and aspect ratio, as was obvious when people looked at properly scaled photos side by side.


So, I take it you haven't seen this:

http://electroniclover.info/samsung-touch-control-rmc30d-uni...

I'm well aware that Samsung's tablets have different aspect ratios to Apple's. I made no claim _they_ were EXACTLY anything.


  > it's Ferrari suing Hyundai for creating a coupe
  > that looks EXACTLY like the current model Ferrari.
s/Ferrari/Apple/g; s/Hyundai/Samsung/g; s/coupe/pad/g

It was your analogy.


Seems as though you haven't read the complaint. This is another one of Apple's famous bullshit "look and feel" lawsuits. Hopefully, it will fail like all the others they've tried.


I work in a distributed office, and over the past few days I've been trying to find a "concept mapper", which helps us to make projects more concrete through flowcharts etc. The problem that I keep on facing is that the web apps which dominate the current market just don't cut my needs. They don't allow for proper exploration, and collaboration is a frustrating progress. We would gladly pay for a tool that doesn't get in our way and just lets us all communicate.

I think that you will find a ready market, if you can solve the thorny problem of communicating projects, which involve several interconnected parts/ideas.

I know for a fact that I'll buy it.


have you looked at Creately? I've been using it for a month or so and it seems pretty good: http://creately.com/


great to hear! :-)


This is tangential, but if you overlook the issue, then you'll find that this is how you do PR. Gaming even the serious things out is the perfect stage for myth making. Asking a giant to battle you in a game over a trademark is the stuff of legends.


I remember watching Spirit and Opportunity land on mars, sitting next to my uncle,the day he was diagnosed with lung cancer, and I still remember the prediction that the rovers would die in 3 months due to buildup of dust. I couldn't help but wonder that my uncle was, at least, going to outlive them. I was wrong.


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