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….sorry what?!


Im Canadian (Not Onario), so I really wanted to enjoy reading this as a peak inside what IT is like in that environment, but the LLM generated headers and patterns in the piece really put me off and I had to stop reading after a couple of minutes Im afraid.

I think this article would really benefit from being rewritten in your own words. The concept is good


> The concept is good

Unfortunately, it's not. Once you read through the slop the implementation is still getting a pass/fail security response from the LLM, which the premise of OP's article is railing against.


What’s the problem there exactly? There’s nothing necessarily diametrically opposed in the two articles. They’re almost complimentary really


Strongly agree for the same reasons. I don’t subscribe to his stuff for any particular niche, I just enjoy the “this is a thing I am going to learn lots about and make a video”.


These are very common in Canada still and anytime I see one I point at it and make the same joke “Looks it’s Vent Reznor” and my girlfriend has never once laughed. Oh well.


If you keep doing it she's sure to get it eventually.


Now, now, that’s just a Terrible Lie


I mean, compare "Spam" the Monte Python sketch against "Four Candles" (the Two Ronnies). Four Candles is hilarious the first time you hear it, but Spam only really works on repetition which is why the sketch iterates internally so it's repeated within itself.

On the other hand while "Mastermind" (also the Two Ronnies) is hilarious if you understand the cultural context, you can get "Spam" with no context whatsoever, it's funny because they keep saying "spam".

All to say - maybe the repetition works eventually? Ask again after a decade of marriage :D


It seems odd to me not to mention things like MaxMSP or PD in an article like this. Arguably Max is one of the most successful standalone visual programming languages (standalone in so far as it’s not attached to a game engine or similar - it exists only for its own existence).


Those two are both primarily for real time signals and music right? That is a great domain for wires, transforms, and pipelines.

Have you ever seen them used in a different context?


GNU Radio Companion is its RF/software-defined radio counterpart: https://wiki.gnuradio.org/index.php?title=Your_First_Flowgra...

Sometimes the flowgraph is too complex to be constructed using the visual editor though, for example gnss-sdr uses C++ to generate the GNU Radio flowgraph: https://gnss-sdr.org/docs/control-plane/


No, they are very tailored to that use case. They arent general languages - but they are still probably the best examples of successful visual programming languages.


Gov orgs usually would use a FedRamp tenant and those weren’t impacted (apparently, my trust in Okta right now isn’t high)


Okta is rated as FedRAMP High...seems like their rating means fuck all imo.


A fedramp high accreditation means you at least have your shit together.

Not easy to fake that one. I guess you could have a shitty coalfire assesor


Having been involved in both sides of other certifications before (not FedRAMP specifically though) my level of trust in them is through the floor. So much meaningless box ticking & not much actual substance.


I find myself continuously blessed to run slack on a daily basis and literally never encounter an issue with it being an electron app. My laptop must be magic or something!


I don't either (well, at times the ui has slight annoyances...).

But then again, i'm using a 3500 euros, company-issued macbook pro (m1 pro, 32gb). Working well on this kind of hardware is an incredibly low bar.


Yeah, same. Well it has issues, but they're clearly due to the code being a mess and nothing to do with it being Electron.


In what way did it have “more features than slack”? This feels more like “had other features that I like”


ICQ having more features than Slack isn't really a point of contention, ICQ could do about a zillion things.


I mean it is. I’m contesting it. So unless you have some quantifiable data it is in contention.

I like ICQ. I used it. But I really just don’t agree it had “more” features. It had _different_ features. And those features are just kinda wildly different because of how business and the internet had changed. I just really do not think it is a useful point to try and imply is a weakness of slack somehow.


I don’t understand why you feel the need to defend Slack? Half the time I start a huddle the sound doesn’t work. That was a solved problem in clients in the 00s. File uploads? Better be JPG or it’s a 50/50 shot of it uploading correctly (HEICs? Good luck). The new design moves everything around and somehow makes it harder to find huddles. Discord on the other hand, also an electron app, has pretty much flawless audio/video calls.


Please read the following:

https://whyisthisinteresting.substack.com/p/why-is-this-inte...

You just kinda had to be there. It was ever changing but snappy.


I was there but thank you for the condescending assumption.


You’re quite welcome.


That’s an incredibly privileged point of view, with all due respect.


I worked in a plastic factory in a small rural town that always struggled to find workers. People will refuse work and prefer poverty for a lot less than 14-7 working conditions. Lacking air conditioning is enough.


With all due respect, so is equivocating having to sit in the car for an hour with the desperation of choosing between starving and a long work week


Not sure where I even remotely did that? The comment above was my only contribution to this thread. It’s an isolated reply to the comment I replied to


You didnt. I was making an additional contribution which related to yours and the parent post.

Both are extremely privileged and ignorant positions.

That nobody would work 70 hour weeks, and that going into an office is a comparable struggle.


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