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Wanna bet that the next day a new law will be passed making that marking illegal? :)

Has anyone considered that maybe Microsoft is trying to help the Linux desktop adoption grow at a faster rate?

Yo do know all the jokes about how the US would anything as a measuring system except the metric system? Same with paper.

It is also a conferencing app. That might explain some of the size.

I've been using gmail since the early beta days and was never aware of this functionality. But on closer inspection there appears to be a highly stylized (unrecognizable) camera icon there that takes me to, I guess the long lost cousin of Google Meet?? Why are these apps welded together? What a bizarre decision. I thought Meet went to The Graveyard along with Allo and Duo and Wave.

My work uses GSuite so I’m using Meet every day. I find it mildly useful to have the functionality built into the Gmail app but at the same time I see zero loss in having it be a separate app.

Meet was discontinued; its functionality was merged into Duo and the resulting app renamed to Meet.

Meet still works on Pixel phones as a solution/parity for FaceTime. I wonder if it's bundled in the web build or they're the same build under the hood.

That's something that I would (very generously) expect to add 5 megabytes.

The background images alone would be more than that.

We don't need that to be pre-loaded on the device, do we? how often are they used? and when one is set to be used, the user is definitely online already, just grab the one then

Yeah, meet and chat (where each has their own bloat) are now integrated into the mail app as well. This contributes a lot.

> My hunch is that the NATO would be dissolved, and everyone would have to team up against the aggressor.

And do what exactly against the US? You can’t invade it, geographically they can easily defend Greenland from any invasion force. And speaking of an invasion force, how many countries do you know that can deploy an expeditionary force strong enough to take on the US?


US would be isolated with sanctions, EU may join to the BRICS (or a partial homologous?).

So I'm not sure if the above is his main intention, or if he is telling Greenland to join the EU (altruism? hmmm), or if we're witnessing how he sent his businesses bankrupt [1] , or if I'm missing something.

[1] https://archive.ph/mIJAA ( https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helpe... )

Trump specialises in sending his businesses, hotels and casinos bankrupt, to the point banks stopped lending him money, so he turned to the Russian oligarchy for funding.


> EU may join to the BRICS (or a partial homologous?)

EU joining up with Russia, Iran, and China? Come on.


We are talking about an senary were the market and energy importation from US finish, that would push EU toward the East, Are you sure we will not return to Russia to supply that energy?

Or with other words, Do you think that what happened to the unfortunate Uranians is not related to cut Russian oligarchy tentacles over the EU through energy supply?


> Do you think that what happened to the unfortunate Uranians is not related to cut Russian oligarchy tentacles over the EU through energy supply?

Iran finances terrorism. They have nuclear weapons. They are in alliance with China and Russia.

It would truly be a moral catastrophe if the EU decides to join that side. A true moral catastrophe.


Just following the US’s lead.

The US did appoint a representative for Greenland a few weeks ago. It is not inconceiveable that at some point in the future they will let Denmark know that Greeland is a US territory and that’s that.

And realistically, if this happens, in the next 3 years there is nothing anyone can do anything about it.

We live in interesting times.


Post January it could be yet another impeachment, this time it might stick, especially if the project 25 people think trumps causing more harm than Vance.

Only harm trumps causing is Epstein fallout, Venezuela is even part of project 2025.

This is another lie - Venezuela is not mentioned at all in Project 2025. If you believe I'm wrong (and I'm not), please cite the chapter and page that the section on Venezuela is located in.

"The five countries on which the next Administration should focus its attention and energy are China, Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and North Korea."

> Wonder where that trial would be considering US doesn't recognize ICC

It has nothing to do with ICC.

Maduro will be tried in New York and then in Florida. Those are the two places where prosecutors charged him, according to CNN.


Low level officials can be eliminated through missile strikes.

If if had to guess, Maduro could have been take out with a GBU or two, but the US holds a grudge against him so they took him out to humiliate him, and send a message to others.


There's a big international diplomacy difference between assassinating a leader and forcibly extraditing one on drug charges.

Not too many countries will go to the mat to support a leader who was engaged in narcotics trafficking, if the US is able to present a viable case (which they seem to intend to, if he's being charged in US federal court).


> forcibly extraditing

Commonly known as "kidnapping."

The US has no jurisdiction over Venezuela. This is pure mafia behavior by the US.


Europe (as in all european countries combined) does not have a military powerful enough to oppose the US. And that is all that matters.

Would you say that the United States had a much larger and more expensive military than Vietnam? How did that work out for the United States?

The US was winning the Vietnam war militarily. The US pulled out because it wasn’t winning it domestically.

Another potential goal of the war may have been to demonstrate that the USSR couldn't hope to win a conventional war against the US (the 1973 Easter offensive fielded 700-1200 tanks of various kinds, and the US destroyed 400-700 of them with trivial losses to US forces). The Soviets were using 15-20% of their economy to produce, among other military items, 4000 tanks a year, so a demonstration that the US could destroy so much without significant losses or any particular economic strain could have been shocking. If that was a real goal, though, it probably couldn't be openly discussed at the time, which would have contributed to the "why are we even there?" mood of the American people.

The US was barely treading water militarily, at enormous cost in both lives and cash. It was not progressing towards its military and political goals. That's why the US public pulled the plug.

The US could have continued to tread water for another 5 years, or another 10 years, or another 15 years, and would have lost even more men and spent even more money, and it would still have faced the same problem: there was no way to win the war. Every day that the war continued just meant more deaths and more money wasted.


Well, "not winning domestically" can happen as likely today as it did in the sixties.

If anything, the US society is more divided today.


In the event that someone is directly attacking Americans in America, I think you'll find that Americans are more united than it appears.

Americans culturally have seen ourselves as the "Good Guys" for the last century or so, and Good Guys imply Bad Guys. If there aren't any credible Bad Guys external to the US, Americans start thinking the Bad Guys are the rich, or the coastal elites, or flyover country, or liberals, or whatever. That's just 'cause there's no one else to be against, though; it'll pass.


> In the event that someone is directly attacking Americans in America

Didn't Trump have the army attack democratic cities earlier this year?


No, he did not. Where did you come up with this idea?

It's a complicated bit of American constitutional / federal law. Tl;dr...

The US military cannot be used to perform domestic policing functions (Posse Comitatus Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act ), except in times of insurrection or when state unable or unwilling to suppress violence that threatens citizens' constitutional rights (Enforcement Acts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enforcement_Acts ).

Hence Trump's continual (and false) claims that the cities he's targeting are lawless and dangerous places.

The above applies to federal US military forces. The laws specifically exclude the US Coast Guard. Non-military federal forces (FBI, ICE, etc) are also excluded.

It also, in the more complicated quirk, excludes state military forces (i.e. "National Guard" units). These forces can be activated under a variety of different legal frameworks (see https://www.nationalguard.mil/Portals/31/Resources/Fact%20Sh... ), some of which allow their use for domestic police functions (Title 32 and SAD), because they're still under the command of the state governor (who can use military forces to perform domestic policing functions inside their state or a neighboring state).

There's also a special exclusion for Washington, DC, as technically the president is sort of its governor for many purposes.

Given that background, what actually happened...

- Trump activated National Guard units under Title 10 (aka federal active duty service), because this doesn't require the consent of a state's governor

- Trump then deployed these units to several cities, some with the support of Republican governors and some without the support of Democratic governors

- The administration's legal team realized performing policing functions with the above forces was on extremely shaky ground

- Therefore, they mostly claimed (loudly) that they were deploying "the military", but in actuality used them for extremely limited, non-policing purposes (picking up trash, talking to tourists, guarding federal buildings, guarding other federal agents performing law enforcement functions)

- After state governments sued, the courts generally agreed the deployment was unlawful ( https://www.reuters.com/world/us-supreme-court-rejects-trump... )


This is a fiction.

"Actually we did find weapons of mass destruction"

That would only matter if US invaded Europe or vice versa. That's not going to happen. So the size of military expenditures doesn't really matter.

You can’t be that naive to believe that military might has nothing to do with political might.

That's not what I said. I said that it doesn't matter.

Military might has plenty to do with bluffing. That's what politics is all about.

But when the music stops and the ball drops, US and EU aren't going to war with each other any time soon. So measuring military might doesn't really matter.


And you can't be that naive to believe is gonna make any difference. The US that had to get out of Korea, Vietnam, all the way to Afghanistan, will take on Europe? Lol...

It’s not what the US might do, it’s what they might not do.

If Putin decides Poland is propping up Ukraine he might expand the war into Poland because right now it isn’t clear that the US would honor their NATO commitments.


Ukraine was not a NATO country, never mind a EU country. I’m all for speaking truth to the weakness of the eu and its indecisive pussyfooting on the military front but let’s not start getting high on our own supply: Russia absolutely does not have the military nor industrial power to invade Poland and take on the actual EU in a hot war. NATO or no NATO it wouldn’t even be close.

Or it could just end with mutual total nuclear annihilation of course.

Edit: now if they were to attack the eu over a decades long interference campaign with its member state democracies, funding anti eu parties, stoking separatist sentiments, and covertly subverting the fundamental pillars of its liberal democracies, on the other hand…


I think Putin would use nuclear weapons. I don’t think the EU would retaliate in kind.

If we're accepting as a given that somehow Putin launches nukes into Europe to invade Poland, and the EU doesn't retaliate in kind, then the USA definitely wouldn't--NATO or no NATO--so I'm not sure how it's relevant to the original comment.

Russia is has tried and failed for a couple of years now to push particularly far into Ukraine, and you think Europe would have a problem stopping a Russian attack on Poland?

Poland alone has a population comparable to Ukraine, and a significantly larger economy.


Europe doesn't need the US to defend Poland against Russia.

If EU countries commit to a conflict, Russia has no chance. It makes nuclear escalation a real risk though.


That doesn't matter. One or two atomic boms from France and say goodbye to a good GDP from the US coasts. Everyone losses, but the US it's set back to 1940.

This will only happen if France decides to commit suicide at a national level, which is very unlikely.

There's no difference between suicide and an invasion from the US with total control of the neocons against a social-democratic state. That being a puppet state a la Vichy, I mean; not something being bribed upon with corruption and money.

What the US needs is to invest right now in fusion technology and learn the damn Math right. Hint: hypercubes and physics.

They have it easy:

https://phys.org/news/2025-02-fourth-dimension-scientists-gl...

https://wt3000.substack.com/p/scientists-just-built-a-fourth...

They don't need a war to feed the industry, they need the balls to evolve themselves as the Chinese did. First from pure Maoism to Deng Xiaoping, and next from coal to clean energy. It's a decades bound plan, but if Beijing becames clean it would be one of the greatest things for China (and the world) ever.

This would mean acknowledging that some sectors are best stated supported, such as healthcare; while others are best company supported/evolved, such as telecos and R+D, but with proper regulations, so net neutrality stays as is and patents get open over few decades so everyone can play the game.

And, no, you don't need to put social credit, social surveillance or any other bullshit such as Chat Control.


... "hypercubes and physics"?

You'll understand the reasons for it later.

Programmers with concepts such as the Hamming distance and nodes in a network are pretty much ready to understand the further reasons of my comments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercube_internetwork_topolog...

Hint: rotating/translating objects will be cheaper than moving over time.


Labor shortages abound in the US military. It is slowly approaching paper tiger status, unless we're talking about delivering long range ordinance. The US can engage in a small handful of conflicts at the same time; it cannot take on the world. The Coast Guard didn't have enough staff to commandeer an oil tanker near Venezuela recently [1] [2]. The US Navy has mothballed seventeen supply ships due to labor shortages [3]. Total global US military headcount is ~2.6M as of this comment, ~1.14M on US soil [4] [5] [6] [7]. There are also military sourcing single points of failure, like L3 [8] and the US Air Force.

China can already detect and track stealth aircraft using a combination of ground based passive radar and StarLink signal, as well as satellite reconnaissance. Europe could have this capability whenever they're ready to spend and, in the case of a satellite, lift to orbit. Use hypersonic vehicles for anti air defense and carrier busting [9].

[1] https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2025/12/24/u-s-hunts-sanctioned-t...

[2] https://www.stripes.com/branches/coast_guard/2024-03-06/coas...

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46130106

[4] https://www.gao.gov/military-readiness

[5] https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-are-in-the-us-...

[6] https://usafacts.org/articles/is-military-enlistment-down/

[7] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/06/6-facts-a...

[8] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46355005

[9] https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/12/18/eu-flag...


No, but China and Australia do if they were to, you know, alliance themselves against the tyranny of the US. Much like we did against the tyranny of the Nazi regime.

Add in other nato countries and we’re cooked.


Unpopular opinion, but the US and a handful of other countries do not recognize the ICC and in their eyes it does not exist; hence the US has no obligation to support them in any way.

The ICC was warned before picking on Israel, but it did not listen. Now they’re paying the consequences.


The long term consequence is that the US is proving that the rest of the world how dangerous it is to rely on US financial institutions. I very much doubt destroying the trustworthiness of its financial institutions in order to protect war criominals is beneficial for the US in the long run.

After WW2, the US did a lot of bad things but it did not change its status in the world. Nothing will change now or in the foreseeable future. And the “problem” is pretty simple: there is no one able to take its place.

After WW2, the US had a lot of political capital and the governments with economic clout were largely either highly positive to the US or already quite hostile, and the US at the same time had a tremendous financial advantage.

A lot of the US' bad things post WW2 were seen favorably by the governments that were already US-friendly, and who either way saw the US as a critical ally.

That has drastically changed in general. The situation is not remotely comparable.

Europe in particular is more confident, isn't bordered by a power that Europe believes it can't handle alone if it has to (a threat, yes, but not an existential one like the USSR). There isn't remotely the same sense of needing the US at all costs.

The ICC decisions simply wouldn't have been allowed to happen in a way that caused a rift with the US shortly after WW2. It'd have been inconceivable. That the ICC decisions have not just been allowed to happen but haven't caused uproar from most European governments is itself evidence of how much weaker the US position is seen by European eyes in particular.

But in terms of finance in particular, it's also just not the case that there is no one able to take its place.

Of the top 20 largest banks in the world by assets, only 5 are American, the top 4 largest are Chinese, and China has 7 total, UK 2, France 2, Japan 3, Spain 1.

Extend that list to the top 50, and it only adds one more US bank.


The ICC didn’t ‘pick on Israel’…

While the events on Oct 7th were horrific and undoubtedly deserved eliminating Hamas, Israel has collectively punished the civilian population of Gaza in the extreme (as they have been doing for years)


Let’s grant the worse case scenario argument against Israel’s actions. Their point still stands: neither Israel nor the USA recognize the authority of the ICC; they have not signed on to the treaty to be governed by it, and hence the ICC does not have the authority to look into either of ther actions.

Crimes against humanity are subject to universal jurisdiction. A state need not be a member of the ICC to be subject to its (or any other entity’s) jurisdiction in investigating, prosecuting, and adjudicating such crimes.

The US does not recognize such an argument. If that is the argument being made, then no wonder the US issued sanctions; it would perceive such a precedent as a threat to its sovereignty.

Not quite: The US helped invent that argument, and has used it extensively to pursue its foreign policy goals since World War II.

What the US has argued historically is that American people and institutions are not subject to it because the US has a functioning civilian and military justice system, and so prosecution for such crimes can be handled within it, even by foreign nations and NGOs.

Obviously that’s a load of bullshit, especially (but not only) these days, but “sovereignty for me but not for thee” has long been the rule and with its weakening international position the US may come to find that to be less achievable in the future.


When has the US used the argument that a judicial system has universal jurisdiction? In the US, foreign policy is the domain of the executive, to the point where court cases involving foreign sovereigns are usually dismissed.

Compared to how much of a mess most of the world's powers are on matters on sovereignty, the US is actually one of the more conservative ones here (e.g., see OFCOM in the UK).


It has not, and that’s not what I said.

Let me restate: The US position is that the US justice system “works” and thus *US persons and institutions* must be pursued *within the US system* even by foreign entities.

In other words, the US position is not that if (say) North Korea commits a crime against humanity they must be pursued in US courts; the US is fine with the ICC in that case. The US position is that if the US commits a crime against humanity that must be pursued in US courts, not the ICC.

It’s an obvious (and bullshit) double standard, but it’s also not a denial of the legitimacy of universal jurisdiction. It’s just the US, as usual, trying to have its cake and eat it too.


Why is that a double standard? The US position is that recognized nations have sovereignty, and are the supreme law within their jurisdiction. If there is no recognized legitimate sovereign power, then the US is fine with an international body substituting.

That this standard is complicated, and different from those that argue that international law should be the supreme law, doesn't make it a double standard. It's also not what is meant by universal jurisdiction, as it does not depend on overriding sovereignty.

Edit: Seeing your other comment, it's also worth noting this was a large reason why the US didn't sign the Rome statute, since as you note, the US isn't inherently opposed to the idea of international courts, only the supremacy of their jurisdiction.


Except Netanyahu and Galland are not US citizens. Therefore why is the US so involved in?

Because the US protects Israel pretty much at all costs. For the same reason no one attacks Israel for fear of reprisals from the US.

They don't want the precedent established. Same reason why uninvolved parties in US courts submit "amicus briefs" - the precedent from a case may affect them down the line.

The US doesn’t believe universal jurisdiction applies to it or its vassal states and proxies, which includes Israel.

On the other hand, the US didn’t try to prevent Slobodan Milošević from being tried at The Hague for war crimes and genocide, as Serbia wasn’t a vassal state or proxy.


Since when does authority to look into a country’s actions require consent of that country?

Anybody can look into any country’s actions unless that country has authority over them and forbids it.


Since 1354.

    4 State immunity evolved in close connection to the development of the concept of sovereignty
    and the territorial State. It can be traced back to the principle of par in parem non habet
    imperium which was mentioned as early as 1354 by Bartolus de Saxoferrato in his Tractatus de
    regimine civitatis. It stipulates that a sovereign should not have jurisdiction over another
    sovereign.
    
    [...]
    
    22  State immunity entails that a State itself or its property is not subjected to the
    proceedings of the court of another State. It does foreclose any proceedings or judgment on the
    merits, but does not hinder the service of process and a court decision about the admissibility.
    Likewise, it protects the property of a State against any measure taken in relation to the
    proceedings.
- https://opil.ouplaw.com/display/10.1093/law:epil/97801992316...

The crimes took place in Palestine, which recognizes the ICC.

What authority did the world have to trial the Nazis at Nuremberg? Countries are going to get called on crimes against humanity, simple as.

>Their point still stands: neither Israel nor the USA recognize the authority of the ICC

Many others have already pointed out the fact here - that Palestine is under ICC jurisdiction.

Instead what I want to focus on is WHY YOU DID NOT KNOW THIS, despite the fact that the ICC literally ruled on this matter quite a while ago, specifically. The court itself approached this question, evaluated the evidence, and made a ruling. You missed all that?


"Palestine is under ICC jurisdiction" is the court's claim; that doesn't make it a legal reality. It relies on the theory that PA is the government of Gaza, despite never having controlled it.

They prefer war to justice. Got it.

ICC also charged the responsible Hamas officials at the same time.

ICC also failed to charge Palestinian authority officials for the money they give war criminals who are in prison because of their actions. Palestinian authority joined the ICC in 2015, 10 years ago plenty of time to act.

If we’re going to go down that route then ICC could also charge Israel for funding Hamas

The birth of Hamas was quite literally supported by Israel because they wanted to undermine the unity of the Palestinians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas


> Israel has collectively punished the civilian population of Gaza in the extreme

So is any atrocity allowable if you have enough civilian human shields?


Are you talking about the IDF or Hamas? Both sides are recorded to have made extensive use of human shields.

> a handful of other countries do not recognize the ICC

Those "handful of countries" who do not recognize the ICC have more than 2/3rd of the world population btw.


Israel committed crimes against humanity in Palestine over which ICC does have jurisdiction. Whether US supports the ICC or not is irrelevant.

I had to dig this up because this was from August. Not sure why it is coming up now.

[1] https://www.state.gov/releases/2025/08/imposing-further-sanc...

I don’t think the ICC was plotting to undermine US or Israel sovereignty. The dispute is about jurisdiction. The ICC has a pretty expansive theory that says it can go after nationals of non-member states if the alleged conduct happened on the territory of a member state. That theory has been around for years and mostly lived in briefs and conferences. What changed in 2025 is that the ICC started acting on it and advancing real cases that implicated non-members. At that point it stopped being academic and started looking like a real-world precedent with consequences for allies and potentially US personnel. That’s the slippery slope. The administration had already tried protests and non-recognition and concluded it was not changing behavior. The August sanctions were framed as a last-resort escalation to draw a hard line against what they saw as ongoing overreach, not as a response to some new hostile intent.


Why does it have jurisdiction? Israel has not ratified the Rome Treaty, and have stated they will not do so. Without that the ICC does not have legal jurisdiction over their actions.

Israelis committed those crimes in Palestine, over which ICC does have jurisdiction.

Crimes against humanity are subject to universal jurisdiction.

Even if we had some legal theory under which ICC could assert universal jurisdiction for certain crimes, the ICC doesn't do so. It has to abide by its own jurisdiction rules, which have no such mechanism.

The ICC's jurisdictional claim is here is rather based on the idea that PA is the de facto government of Gaza, even though they never controlled it.


Palestine has. The actions took place there.

There is no such state as 'Palestine'. The PA is widely recognized and has acceded to the Rome Statute, but it has never held sovereignty in Gaza, making ICC's recognition of 'Palestine'--specifically including not only the West Bank but also Gaza and East Jerusalem--as a State Party under Article 12(2)(a) of the Rome Statute dubious at best.

But really, it's not dubious at all: It's utterly absurd.

ICC claims that since PA claims to represent 'Palestine', and UNGA Resolution 67/19 "Reaffirms the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination and to independence in their State of Palestine on the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967", and that since they consider Gaza "Palestinian territory occupied since 1967" (despite the fact that Gaza has certainly not been occupied by Israel for decades and a completely separate entity exercises sovereignty there), therefore 'Palestine' is a State Party properly represented by the PA and covered by its accession to the Rome Statute, and thus the ICC totally have jurisdiction over Gaza.[0]

Bonkers.

Anyway Israel never acceded to the Rome Statute and the doctrine of state immunity applies. Even if PA were sovereign in Gaza and had properly delegated that sovereignty to the ICC, ICC's claim that Article 12(2)(a) grants them jurisdiction over Israel and Israeli leaders for their actions in Gaza is still a brazen claim to jurisdiction not well supported by customary international law.

[0]: https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/itemsDocuments/p...


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