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As if there were any different actions that could be taken to avoid a star vs a black hole.

I’d probably welcome the quicker demise tbh


It’s less about actions we could take and more about knowing we don’t have to worry about colliding with a star for the moment.


You probably wouldn’t want society to know we were about to collide with a star-sized mass, visible or not.


> wouldn’t want society to know we were about to collide with a star-sized mass

I may be misunderstanding the distances involved but wouldn't such a collision take centuries if not thousands of years to play out? For the most part it would just look like we had 2 suns, one of which gets a few millimeters bigger (to the naked eye) every year.


Yes, and the weather would ruin us long before any exciting cosmological collision took place.


ah dammit I didn't think of that you're right it would be more of a disturbed orbit, weird ass days and nights but hey atleast there's a chance the scientists could have close up real life simulation of the three body problem


I kind of get it. Just rip the band aid off already. If we are all gonna be unemployed and the economy is going to be AI and robots then let’s just do it. Capitalism as we know it will fundamentally change or fail, there will be a revolution or laws will be enacted to finally build safety nets everywhere and we can get over this will-they-won’t-they bullshit of employers threatening everyone’s livelihoods because “vibe coding”.


Many people are under the naive, misguided, and mistaken belief that the reason we have so many issues today is because we live under capitalism. This belief is false and is propaganda.

True understanding starts with a definition.

Capitalism is an economic system where the means of production are privately owned and operated for profit with prices determined by the forces of supply and demand in a free market. It's characterized by voluntary exchange, competition, and the pursuit of profit.

Profit must be in purchasing power. This requires a stable store of value, a monetary property of the currency which no longer holds true.

Socialism is a system where the means of production are transferred from private ownership to collective or state ownership (in secret or public), resulting in a centralized planning authority controlling all production and distribution.

The key here is in the concept of ownership. Ownership is the right to dispose of the assets at a loss as an individual.

Free-markets require independent adversarial decision-making without cooperation, but money-printing via gifts, or more commonly non-reserve debt issuance/loans like AT&T or other companies with loans > assets, forces cooperation resulting in artificial distortions (such as artificial supply constraints to raise price levels) that grow until no profit (in purchasing power) can be made. This is shown in a long-term trend towards few companies holding the majority of marketshare.

Since money-printing is a function of the state, this meets the rigorous definition of the system we live under right now being socialism, specifically market socialism, since there are still some independent businesses out there; but when you have one entity constrained by loss function and the other is not, that other will always win. When most private business fails, it fails to non-market socialism (but it hasn't happened quite yet, current projections by people who know say it may be 2027-2030).

That wouldn't be so bad if the system was sustainable but we've known since the 1930s that non-market socialism fails to 6 intractable problems. One of which, is a hysteresis problem that can only be solved by having perfect future sight (an impossibility). The absence of a working system leads to socio-economic collapse.

Malthus and Catton have described what happens under these scenarios. TL;DR food production without modern supply chains only supports 4bn people globally, we have ~8.2bn, and during a malthusian reversion the flows are destroyed during pre-crisis extraction stage, so the sustainable population is a fraction of what it may have been in the past. If you have 8.2bn people, and you can only suddenly feed 2bn people. Who decides who lives and who starves/dies, the older people or the younger people? Maybe the children get to go first. Unthinkable sure, but that's how these things often happen.

Profit in purchasing power must still be made under state-run apparatus which is why the chaotic distortions occur. Corners are cut, regulatory kicks in when people die, shortages ensue, and it can't self-correct because the costs to enter the business are exceeded because the price floor money-printers have set up.

For the last 30 years, the vast majority of everyone's life has become poorer. The options they've had available have dissappeared, their agency has been taken, and the services they pay for have enshittified. These are signs Mises warned about in the 1930s, but few today have the education or cognitive ability (having been tortured their entire lives), to rationally follow the material.

Under socialism, there is only one inevitable outcome, and the environment is fundamentally chaotic preventing us from taking any effective action to self-correct under it. Although these failures are indirect, allowing people to deceitfully claim its something else than what it is to justify ever more control, it doesn't change the facts.

The money printing experiment the Fed in conjunction with the leaders chosen by the boomer generation, forces a society that has no hope or future.

It steals money from future generations to make the current generation comfortable, leaving nothing left. That is their legacy, and there will be very few who will survive it (if any).

Totalism makes the population hopelessly dependent on the state which will fail as a matter of course because at the same time it prevents any kind of adaptation to the issues. An abstract failure of darwin's fitness test, existentially for humanity.

Similar things have happened in the far past, but because of chaos and the distance in time, few if any records remains. The most similar type of collapse to what seems to be happening is the bronze age collapse.

A sea-faring people of cruel intelligence, who look just like us, and who came and disappeared and destroyed all civilizations at that time not through war but by chaos, subterfuge, and deceit.

The only thing we have left are the legends passed by word of mouth, that are more aptly stories that seem more fiction than real, of terrible cruelly intelligent gods that were mistaken for people, who were capricious and enjoyed tormenting mortals in their odyssey's and beyond.


Are these anecdotes? Comments further down are saying the exact opposite and that nothings changed?


Pretty sure SF has the same story as here in San Diego. Homelessness is not actually down but far less visible thanks to last year's Supreme Court ruling. No more tent cities downtown but now camps have shifted along federal highways.

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/28/nx-s1-4992010/supreme-court-h...


Totally agree. Bewildering even how many people I know that gladly spend what would otherwise be free time just whittling away on more work when they’re salaried and that work isn’t likely to result in more pay.


YouTube shorts too


Gosh I forgot those were a thing. Does anyone use this cheaper than cheap copy of a cheap copy?


I did, before I disabled the watch history which then also disables shorts, effectively. Shorts may be the wish/temu version of TikTok (though increasingly less so), but is absolutely as addictive.


How does disabling watch history disable shorts?


Well, shorts stop working if you do: https://i.imgur.com/cbFjIF4.jpeg


wow i've been looking for a way to do this for a while, guess I needed to google other ways of doing it. thank you


I hate when people copy other's ideas. Gmail was such a hotmail/yahoo copy.


Gmail was an improvement though. What did Youtube Shorts improve on tik tok exactly?


I don't think it matters if it's better or worse. There are plenty of bad browser based email implementations. I think we should be encouraging companies to borrow and steal good software ideas from each other, because otherwise we end up stifling innovation.


I don't know why exactly, but I don't get almost any "watch part 2" content on YouTube shorts. That's actually the only reason I started using it instead of TikTok - those really enraged me.


Until the US dev has a medical expense, that is.


A cursory amount of research shows that the average premium for an insurance policy on the open market through the ACA is between $400-$2000 a month depending on options - family status, deductibles etc.

There is also COBRA that lets you stay on your employer’s plan. You have to pay the entire premium. I pay $600 a month now and my employer pays $1200 a month. That’s me + family.


I think a lot of you guys from the US don't really get how high the taxes are here that pay for this stuff, especially for people that make more than the average.

If you would work non-contract here in Poland for an equivalent of ~$120k you would pay around $1k USD. If your wife is working she will also pay, of course this also covers all you kids.

So lets say both of you make around $120k here - so you would pay $2k monthly for "free" healthcare and its quality is atrocious. Even for serious stuff you many times need to wait 1-2 years for something, all hospitals are understaffed, the care quality is abysmal.

If you are ambitious and make good money the US is better. Europe in general is better for people that don't aim too high and want the state to enforce some minimum of QoL for them at the expense of the rest.


Oh I thought Arizona was in the bottom 5


Or Uber. Or Tesla. Or Amazon Go.


They are just heavily subsidized!!!

We ought to just view and treat them as defense contractors and 3 letter agencies!


I'm so incredibly sad due to this state of affairs. I don't even know what to do really. Do I drop everything, try to get a law degree, and fight via the law even though this administration doesn't really seem to heed it?


What I've done is just set aside a percentage of my paycheck to go towards democratic lawyers fighting this as well as get involved in protest locally. Connect with your local community.


And that wont happen to the US?


What is "that" that "won't happen"?

US, Canada, Europe are demographically cooked too, but they (partially) solve this problem with immigration, that is not an option for China and the rest of Asia.


You think there will be zero policy changes in China over the next 125 years?


What's your point?


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