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There's nothing here showing the law was broken.

Perhaps an inquiry will show otherwise, but there are plenty of reasons ICE via CHP might be looking for a vehicle that aren't related to immigration law enforcement (perhaps they're looking for a truck full of smuggled contraband, for example).






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> Under a decade-old state law, California police are prohibited from sharing data from automated license plate readers with out-of-state and federal agencies. Attorney General Rob Bonta affirmed that fact in a 2023 notice to police.


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Very poorly written article.

The law only prohibits the sharing of data if it's being used for immigration law enforcement. ICE doesn't just bust undocumented migrants, they also investigate all kinds of other crimes (like smuggled contraband), which is something the CHP would also presumably be involved with. It's perfectly legal to share data if it's not being used in an immigration case.


> Adam Schwartz, privacy litigation director at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, confirmed that Senate Bill 34 of 2015 prohibits California police from sharing data from automated license plate readers with out-of-state and federal agencies, regardless of what they plan to do with the data or whether they’re working on a joint task force.

> “Just because Oakland has collected ALPR data for purposes of dealing with local crime doesn’t mean this is a ‘come one, come all’ buffet,” Schwartz said.


> The law only prohibits the sharing of data if it's being used for immigration law enforcement.

Citation? The law does not appear to be this narrow.

Per the article: "Under a decade-old state law, California police are prohibited from sharing data from automated license plate readers with out-of-state and federal agencies. Attorney General Rob Bonta affirmed that fact in a 2023 notice to police."



SB 34 (2015) prohibits sharing the data with out of state agencies, period.

https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/2023-dle-06.pdf

"Accordingly, SB 34 does not permit California LEAs to share ALPR information with private entities or out-of-state or federal agencies, including out-of-state and federal law enforcement agencies."


The article refers to Senate Bill 34, but you’ve posted a link to a Wikipedia article for Senate bill 54. How could the article’s content and assertions be made clearer? Should it have spelled out the numerals?

SB34 != SB54.

I mean, California Highway Patrol seems to disagree.

> “If any CHP personnel requested license plate data on behalf of ICE for purposes of immigration enforcement, that would be a blatant violation of both state law and longstanding department policy,” the spokesperson wrote. “If these allegations are confirmed, there will be consequences.”


You missed the key phrase "for the purposes of immigration enforcement."

If they're looking for a load of meth, it's fair game.


It's not a key phrase. It's alleged that this particular violation was for that purpose.

The law itself - https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_201520160sb... - doesn't specify immigration purposes.

https://www.404media.co/ice-taps-into-nationwide-ai-enabled-... also indicates a number of specific requests had "immigration" as the given reason.


Seriously?



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