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>Good point.

Is it a good point? How so?

Without any proof or arguments, to me that Mastodon comment is just your average brain rot social media conspiracy slop, especially when you examine the profile of the user who wrote it.

Is this what journalism has now become? Parroting othe people's unhinged takes off social media, then upvoting it on HN?




Likely not the choice of the engineers, who appear not to know that they're being used as pawns in an international spy game that could send them to prison for a very long time.

I fully believe that the engineers themselves are wildly optimistic about society and their own abilities, but good security comes from realism and pessemism. Someone, probably many people, in the chain of command above them has moral and legal responsibility for choosing this course knowing it carried this risk and not caring.


Knowing their choice of targets too (definitely not left up to the engs), by which I mean only DOGEing and compromising the security of what they consider left-leaning agencies: with that targeting and their care to cover their tracks digitally, why not choose a strategy that lets the Russians in quietly? Shortly after they compromised the security of the NRLB they were making blackmail threats by taking drone videos of people (who threatened to reveal their malfeasance) where they lived and worked. Clearly someone in the chain of command is thinking carefully about what they can learn from how Russia governs


But it's coming from the right/good side so any conspiracy instead of panic and dehumanization is plausible and not worth discussing further.


Remember that checklist meme from /.? The “You seem to be advocating/here is why it will not work”?

Well, you’ve burned a bit of time on HN with the karma you’ve accrued. The non-conspiratorial truth is that if you go back and read HN over a longer period of time, it amounts to people parroting other people’s unhinged takes. Least offensive is tech, which is merely juvenile. But the other topics, especially medical ones, are dangerous. Political ones, with zero verification are the worst from a board culture/health perspective.

HN has turned itself into slop in large part due to the voting and flagging mechanisms, because the community was never mentally equipped to use either tools responsibly. And pg/dang never set the tone. So now you see how far it has fallen.

My advice: don’t come here to read comments seriously. Yes, from time to time someone of good taste shows up to a topic they have first hand experience with and they have to educate the rest as to why their takes are completely wrong (and sometimes dangerous, see above).

Instead, come here to get the news, laugh at the shit flinging if you must, and move on.

I’ve been contemplating doing an HN-without-HN filter board; show just the tech stuff, have commentary without voting or flagging. Because while you’re just seeing how things are now, I am afraid to say they’ve always been so.


We're being downvoted to oblivion, but notice nobody is saying we are wrong?




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