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Don’t do clean up.

The biggest mistake the dems can make is to come in and do clean up. This would be paying the bills of the abusive member in a relationship.




People depend on the state. Someone has to be the adult in the room. If your marriage fails what do you do with the kids? You abandon them because you don’t want to clean up?


Dems were already the adult in the room, US voters decided they don’t want one.


Nope, they were in control, spent 4 years focusing most of their attention on things the voting public found various degrees of stupid, then put up two successive candidates in ‘24 that were absolute jokes. The voters decided that the Democrats weren’t serious and sent them a message: “Even this obviously-corrupt buffoon is better than the arrogant elitist that you put up. Do better or be prepared for irrelevance.”

Personally I’m no fan of 90% of the GOP agenda, but my fondest wish is complete dissolution of the DNC, and another party taking over as the party of the non-rich to restore some balance.


Right! The dems are stuck doing the responsible boring and non eye catching thing.

Economists, policy makers etc. increasingly have to make the dems carry the weight, in a political and media market which moves so fast that facts can’t even matter.

In this situation, is it a surprise that they could deal with Covid, undo 2008, end nafta, or any number of great things, but still lose faith of the populace because they didn’t hit the populist taking points?

It now very much feels like an era of talking points, and damn the facts.

In which case either making the talking points stick, or change the talking points.


Course not. Mine is a horrid take.

It’s a statement on the fact that the children are being held hostage, and that this is how the pattern will be made to continue.

You have to decide whether you are ok with this pattern continuing. If it’s possible to do it without harming the children, then that is what must be done.

If it’s better to let this pattern continue, then thats also an ok choice. But at least the costs must be articulated and accepted. People can know what role they are playing in this relationship; the tradeoffs they found unacceptable.


This is all democrats have done my entire politically aware life. It’s like clockwork. Republicans majorly screw things up. Democrats get elected in a wave and start doing the hard work of cleaning up the mess and making tiny steps of progress and then the next election comes around and Republicans win on some culture war nonsense that they created themselves and they get fuck up the system once again. Every single time. Democrats have no opportunity or willingness to enact the agenda of the people who vote for them. They are in perpetual cleanup and maintain the status quo cycle.

The Democratic Party is the conservative one.


Yeah, Dems should skip the next election, maybe a few and let the people cook themselves.

It still might happen that there won't be any further elections in which anyone but trumpists can actually win.




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