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"Dr. King's canon of work based on your memory of a very meme-ified quote"

It's part of his most famous speech which follows the same line of thinking throughout... nice try with the gaslighting though.

"One of the best pitchers in baseball history never had a chance to play in his prime. Why? Because of an accident of his genetics."

Absolutely not, he missed out on playing because people back then decided to base hiring off of skin color (white skin) instead of basing it off of merit (pitching skill). The irony here is that you're trying to bring us back to that same exact pre civil rights era mindset. Somehow your cognitive dissonance has twisted your racism into being a good thing and justified it.



> It's part of his most famous speech which follows the same line of thinking throughout... nice try with the gaslighting though.

You're still side-stepping my line of questioning. This is like reading a module name and assuming you understand the code.

> Absolutely not, he missed out on playing because people back then decided to base hiring off of skin color (white skin) instead of basing it off of merit (pitching skill).

This is just you trying to contort my argument to fit your perspective. I wish you luck learning anything that doesn't match your opinions.


You cannot claim past bias on skin color and argue for future bias on skin color. That is what you're doing and it's cognitive dissonance. You need to break down your arguments to their base, instead you're just putting a cognitive block in place to stop yourself from doing that.

Are you trying to deny his skin color kept him from pitching? By your own admission this pitcher was good and was only stopped due to his skin color. Therefore, the fix is to look at the skills he had as pitcher and drop the irrelevant skin color requirement, correct? And yet you're here trying to promote switched bias where we look at skin color FIRST instead of merit. That is the base of your argument whether you want to admit it or not.

You can falsely claim MLK didn't want a society based on merit and wanted skin color to count for everything, I don't really care, it's not all that relevant to my point. Arguing that some people might have an underlying bias for skin color also isn't really relevant. We do not, as a society, just stop trying to move forward because a few outliers might impede 100% progress.

I DO want a society based on merit because the alternative is a complete collapse of what we have. A society based of diversity of skin color (which is a really superficial useless diversity) above merit based skills is a dead society.

"I wish you luck learning anything that doesn't match your opinions."

Are you looking for someone to just be submissive to what you're claiming and not challenge you? Are you sure I'm the one that needs "luck" here?


Just for your reference, here is another Martin Luther King quote. I encourage you to read more of an author's work before quoting in the future:

From Why We Can't Wait : "Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the Negro is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted equality, they agree; but he should ask nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic."

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Some more to help bolster your MLK canon:

*In 1965 the writer Alex Haley interviewed King for an interview that ran in Playboy Magazine. Haley asks him about an employment program to help "20,000,000 Negroes." After expressing his approval for it, King estimates that such a program would cost $50 billion.

Haley then asks: "Do you feel it's fair to request a multibillion-dollar program of preferential treatment for the Negro, or for any other minority group?"

King: "I do indeed. Can any fair-minded citizen deny that the Negro has been deprived? Few people reflect that for two centuries the Negro was enslaved, and robbed of any wages--potential accrued wealth which would have been the legacy of his descendants. All of America's wealth today could not adequately compensate its Negroes for his centuries of exploitation and humiliation. It is an economic fact that a program such as I propose would certainly cost far less than any computation of two centuries of unpaid wages plus accumulated interest. In any case, I do not intend that this program of economic aid should apply only to the Negro; it should benefit the disadvantaged of all races."*




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