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Most people who are into doing criminal things actually have guns here in Europe. Our open borders allow people to drive a trunk full of guns from Turkish border directly to Berlin, and they regularly catch guys doing that.

Only the people who get attacked don't have any guns, and they get fucked up.




> Most people who are into doing criminal things actually have guns here in Europe.

Speaking for the western part: no they don't. No even close to the majority of criminals have guns (I don't dispute that they have easy access, though). You'll be hard pressed to find street robberies at gun point in Germany, France and the northern countries.


You'll be hard pressed to find street robberies at gun point in Eastern Europe too. Subjectively, it is much safer to walk on the streets of Warsaw, than Berlin.


Been in Warsaw one night, live in German city; can confirm.


Oh shut up. I live in Cologne, there are gang/biker shootings and robberies with guns every week. Police is always too late.


My brother live in frankfurt and even in the worst part in the city, with people injecting heroin in the street, you never get even bothered by anybody.

In France you hear about guns, but I lived in 8 different cities there, and I never been near any gun attack. None of my friends or relatives either.

If you have gun here, people look at you in a strange way.

Everytime me or my bro got in trouble, it was fist fighting. I got a knife once. Some of my friends got messed up. Fist again. In france, the UK, germany, Italy and spain.

I don't say there are no guns. I'm saying that it's not even of the same scale of occurrences than in the US.


Do you have anything to back that up or are you just gonna keep talking?


> Only the people who get attacked don't have any guns, and > they get fucked up.

If you fail to take regular firearm training, combat training or to acquire the necessary mindset for a gunfight under live threat, then you are even more fucked if you try to use that gun you are carrying to make you feel safer...




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